Prepping New Wood For TWP Stains

by TWP Help

Last Updated on January 20, 2022 by TWP Help

TWP Stain Tips for New wood Decks in 2022

When applying TWP Wood Stains for the first time to new wood there will need to be proper steps taken. New smooth wood or decking is not ready to be pre-stained prior to installation or stained right after installation. It is best to follow the directions of the TWP Wood Stain when it comes to applying a coating to new wood for the first time, not the lumber yard or the paint store’s as they do not understand the proper prep needed.

TWP and New Smooth Decking or Exterior Wood

It is important to understand that new smooth wood is not absorbent enough for the TWP Stains. New wood contains a higher moisture content and a “mill glaze”. Mill Glaze is a waxy film that results from the fast turning blades that cut the profile on a manufactured log. The high speed of the turning blades produces heat that draws sap and moisture out of the log. As it cools and dries, it creates a film or coating on the logs. This will hinder the TWP’s ability to penetrate into the wood grain.

Note: New Rough Sawn vertical wood/fencing can be stained right away with no wait and with no prep as it does not have mill glaze and is very absorbent. Just make sure the wood is fully dry. If Rough sawn wood has aged or oxidized (grayed) then it will need to be prepped with Gemini Restore Kit. One coat for most instances of newly installed Rough Sawn wood.

Let the Wood Weather First

TWP wants the wood to weather and dry out for 4-12 months after installation. This will allow the moisture content to drop and the exposed wood cells will oxidize from the sun’s UV, turning slightly gray.

Prepping New Wood for TWP Stains

After letting the wood weather it is time to prep the wood. This step consists of using the Gemini Restore A Deck Kit. This kit contains both a Step 1 Wood Deck Cleaner and a Step 2 Wood Deck Brightener. The Step 1 cleaner will help remove the dirt, graying, and mill glaze from the wood while Step 2 Brightener will neutralize the cleaner and help restore the natural color.

Staining New Wood and Decking for the First Time

Even after the waiting period and the proper prepping, new smooth wood is still not as absorbent as it will be in a few years. We strongly suggest only applying 1 coat of the TWP Stains the first time. Do not over apply as the TWP may not penetrate into the wood correctly. Make sure to back wipe any excess stain that does not penetrate properly into the wood after 30 minutes. For new smooth wood, the TWP 100 Series if allowed in your state, otherwise use the TWP 1500 Series.

Maintaining TWP Stains

Apply a light maintenance coat to the flooring in 9-24 months. If just slightly dirty prep with soapy water to remove grime and reapply one light coat. If you wait 18-24 months make sure to prep again with the Gemini Restore A Deck. After the first year or two, your wood will be able to absorb more TWP stain which results in a longer stain life and protection!

Tip:

TWP is a penetrating wood preservative. It performs properly when it penetrates 100% into the wood. Over applying will not result in longer protection.

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Jackie
1 month ago

I have applied one coat to my new deck last year. The deck looks great except a small area that got sprinkler water every three days.
1, How do I determine when to do the second coat?
1, How long do I wait to apply the stain after cleaning the deck with soap and water?
2, when can the deck take rain after staining
3, do I need to sand the small area that got water sprayed on before staining?

Jackie
1 month ago
Reply to  TWP Help

Thanks for your prompt reply! Very helpful.
I live in San Francisco Bay Area. Raining season is Oct to March.
1, Just to confirm, the first coat to the new deck was done in September 2021. Do you advise that I wait till spring 2023?
2, use the Gemini restore kit, no light sanding needed?
3, the area that got water sprayed on is in the attached photo. Should I take care of it this year?

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Jay
1 month ago

I screwed up and didn’t read this before applying TWP 100 to new deck (kiln dried doug fir.) I could tell right away it didn’t penetrate deeply like it did into older rough sawn wood that we stained. Will this be a problem, or is it more just that it isn’t doing much on top and I will have to reapply sooner (next summer after it weathers over the winter and spring?). Thanks.

jacob
1 month ago
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What is the reason for this – will the coat sitting on top prevent the second coat from penetrating? Or is this more for an even appearance. Thanks for your help.

Jay
1 month ago
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Following that rationale, it means that coat does not allow the wood to weather and the next coat to soak in – is that correct?

Evey
1 month ago

I installed a rough sawn pine horizontal slat fence in July. When should I plan to stain it? (I live in south Michigan.)

 
Brandon
1 month ago

I am sanding and staining a smooth STK Western Red Cedar for the soffit of our new home. The soffit will never see sunlight so I do not think it will ever properly weather as described in the instructions. Additionally it would be nice to stain this on the ground, before it gets installed, to make life a lot easier. How would you suggest I apply the stain?

Marty
2 months ago

I have a new cedar deck that I’m going to use 1500. Do I need to sand and use wood conditioner before I stain?

Deedee
2 months ago

Just saw an answer to my question about stain color that would keep cedar porch posts looking like new wood and it seems one that light would not give it much protection from graying? Which would you suggest so that I’m not having to redo them real often, but without them being dark? Typically how often must they be redone and is it a matter of completing the whole cleaning and staining process all over? I believe I read that there is no stripping needed if you used your product previously? Can you pressure wash to freshen them up later without having to redo stain or does that take the color/protection off? Thank you!!

 
Deedee
2 months ago

I have multiple smooth cedar posts on the front and back porches of my white farm house style home. They were built in March 2022 and we’ve been aging the cedar to be able to use your stain. Which stain and prep should I use and what color if I want it to look like the color they were when they were brand new? I live on the coast in Rockport, TX. Highs are just now under 90! Thanks!

Stacy
2 months ago

Ready to strip and brighten our deck this weekend. Is it okay to use the same pump sprayer for the stripper+additives, rinse it well, then use it for the brightener? Or should we do the stripper+additives with a car wash brush and then a sprayer just for the brightener? We haven’t bought any application products yet as I wanted to read all of the packaging first and it just arrived today. Thanks for quickly and patiently answering so many questions from so many folks!

Stacy
2 months ago
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Great, thank you!

BDGT
2 months ago

How do I know which samples are for the TWP1500 Series. I want a semi-solid stain. I see that there are some same number, such as TWP 15?? but then there are samples listed at the bottom that say TWP??? semi-solid. I don’t know what I should be ordering. I would be helpful if there were individual sample lists for the individual products.

 
Michael J
2 months ago

I just ordered four of the TP100 5 gal and restore-a-deck kits to stain about 3500 sqft of boat dock and pier. Constructed of pressure treated pine about 2 years ago in Houston and never been stained/sealed before, so probably 1 coat on the covered vertical areas and wet-on-wet for the exposed horizontals?
Can you please confirm recommended order and timing? Step 1 restore-a-deck cleaner applied with a pump sprayer, Step 2 restore-a-deck brightener applied with a pump sprayer, Step 3 power wash off the brightener, wait 48 hours before Step 4 staining?
Several mentions of waiting a minimum of 48 hours after rinsing the brightener before staining, but I anticipate 2 people will take an entire weekend to prep 3500 sqft with the restore-a-deck (lots of columns, closet, trim, etc.). Is it OK to wait until the next weekend to stain? What is the maximum time allowed between rinsing the brightener and staining?

Michael J
2 months ago
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Thanks for the prompt & informative reply!

Andrew Terry
2 months ago

I am preparing to replace a small section of cedar shingle roof, the area is high on second floor and will be difficult to access after I am finished (I am renting a lift to do this). I want to pre-stain the shingles with twp-200, yet I read here that is not recommended. What will happen if I pre-stain? Once the shingles are applied to the roof, I will only be able to treat the top, I want to preserve the entire shingle. Can anyone tell me what happens if I pre-stain? I really appreciate it, thank you!

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Andrew Terry
2 months ago
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It’s not smooth wood, they are #1 perfection blue label western red cedar, they have a rough finish. I’ve tried a few sample shingles and they seem to take the stain just fine. What does premature failure mean will actually happen? The stain can’t peel. Just curious, thank you!

Andrew Terry
2 months ago
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Okay, thank you!

Chris K.
2 months ago

New PTP deck completed in October 2021. Waited to stain until TWP Semi-Solid was available. Is there anything that I have to do to “prep” the PTP before applying the TWP Semi-Solid stain? The PTP appears to be “well cured”. Also what is the best way/method for application – brush, roller, or ?

Thanks in advance.

 
S Lopez
2 months ago

I have a 16 month old PTP deck. I sanded some and then applied the Gemini cleaner. I now have a lot of fuzzy wood, and am not sure of what to do next. Sand more, apply the brightener?

S Lopez
2 months ago
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I have a 16 month old PTP deck. I sanded some and then applied the Gemini cleaner. I now have a lot of fuzzy wood, and am not sure of what to do next. Sand more, apply the brightener?

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Brian
2 months ago

What is the shelf life after opening twp100

Renee
2 months ago

Hi. We built our deck with new pressure treated lumbar July 2021, left to weather over winter, then prepped and stained June 2022. There are black areas or mold (?) and the knots are white. It’s only some of the planks. Balusters look great. TWP 1516 Rustic. Looking for advice on how to prep this fall for the winter. Plan is to put a second coat of stain on next summer per the TWP can. Thanks.

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Renee
2 months ago
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Thanks a lot! This website is great and very helpful.

 
Dave Bro
2 months ago

New cedar deck finished Jun ‘19…restore a deck clean and bright + 1st light application of TWP100 Pecan in Jun ‘20…clean and bright cleaning and 2nd light application of TWP Pecan in July ‘20…missed some weather/work opportunities this spring’22 but did get in a light pressure wash in June. I have over a half 5g bucket of stain left over from last year and was wanting to apply it this year with a light soapy water and reapply OR I’ll have to bag it until next year with new product. Is it ever ok to apply maintenance coat without cleaning? I’m guessing no 😊. Here in Coeur d’Alene Idaho.

Chris
3 months ago

Do I need to apply a sealer to a pine fence prior to using TWP cedartone stain? The fence is a year old and never treated.

Chris
3 months ago
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Ok, thank you. I had read on a site it was recommended to keep the pine from getting blotchy because it is a soft wood. Is there anything I need to do differently when applying TWP or is blotchiness not an issue when you use TWP?

Don Osborn
3 months ago

After I have cleaned and brighten, it has rained before I could stain. Do I have to clean and brighten again?

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Doug
3 months ago

My wife ordered the restore a deck stripper, and thickening gel. We have a 40 year old log cabin and we are restoring it, pressure washing the grey. She is wondering if the product is fine to use on oak logs and if the color will change at all.

2. I’m wondering if I can pressure wash some parts and sand others. I started with pressure washing and it is fuzzing the wood a bit so I thought of switching to sanding. Now I’m waiting for the product to arrive to spray on and then Pressure wash as I imagine it will be easier to wash off old stain and grey once applying the stripping agent. Also the water from washing is soaking our foundation and seeping in through the basement bricks so I didn’t want to keep washing too much. Thanks, newbie here

Sonya H.
3 months ago

We are having a new fence installed (350’ x6’ horizontal planked. We’re planning to let it weather until spring before staining and are planning a two-tone effect on both sides – hoping to use semi-solids for UV and longevity. I’ve read the new fence info page but don’t see any on the semi solids. Are There special considerations we should know about seasonal weathering/ timing and number of coats for best results in Kansas? Attached photo for results desired.

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Jay Leeberg
3 months ago

I have a 2 year old untreated glu lam beam framed porch with tongue and groove ceiling. Wood has grayed, cracked and grain lifted heavily. Small black mold spots. I have already started orbital sanding with 60 grit. Did I mess up by doing this? I see that your description says that twp likes old graying wood. I never would have imagined that. Wouldnt grey wood have a different color outcome?

Jay Leeberg
3 months ago
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Ok so mask off painted walls with plastic, pump spray overhead with the Gemini cleaner and brightener, then hose off product well, let dry, sand everything with 60g, then Gemini and rinse again, then let dry thoroughly before twp application right?

Jay Leeberg
3 months ago
Reply to  TWP Help

Thanks a lot for taking the time to respond to all of us.

I have one more, what’s your best estimate as to gallons qty for the beams? And how many for the tongue and groove? I will do two different colors.

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Tony
3 months ago

Does the 4-12 month weathering rule apply to lumber kiln dried after treatment?

I live in Minnesota and would like to get my deck protected for the winter, but I just finished it the end of June this year. Should I just wait until spring?

Georgette
4 months ago

I just had deck built. Was told to wait 6 months to stain. I live in PNW and in a couple months it will start raining/flooding and not stop for the most part for some time. Because of rain coming I was told by same person who said six months to wait until next year because of upcoming rain and allowing proper weathering time of deck. I’m still at a loss of when to stain

Randy
4 months ago

We are currently building a new residence in southeast Tx. The house has a wrap around porch with 8 x 8 rough and green cypress post, 4 x 6 rough cut pine ceiling joist and 1 x 12 rough cut pine ceiling boards. The mill recommended the TWP stain but told us they treated their cypress while it was still wet. After reading your info and some of the reviews it seems that we need to let the wood weather first. My wife wants to sand some of the rough surface on the post to take off a little of the roughness. Will that effect the staining process in how the cypress takes the stain?

 
Anna
4 months ago

I purchased two samples to test for color. Do you offer a small credit from the sample purchase towards the purchase of a 5 gallon bucket?

Bryan
4 months ago

Do you have instructions for prep and application in Spanish? I want to review with my painting contractor before we start.

We put up horizontal sanded con heart fence about a month ago. Moisture meter is low/unreadable. Can I apply stain or still wait 6(?) Months?

Rick
4 months ago

Which TWP product do you recommend for Black Bamboo fencing?

 
Karen & Paul
5 months ago

Pressure treated deck finished in Sept, cured 8mo in east TX full sun east side house to Jun. Husband applied cleaner with broom (no sprayer available), rinsed with old power washer (low water pressure here, so he said was below recommended amount), applied brightener and rinsed. When it dried there were white areas on the deck and the wood has 3 dimensional fuzz so it looked & felt rough. He rinsed the whole thing again, but there is still white residue when dry…and the rough fuzz remains.

He stained the sides and one bench top (wet-on-wet 2 coats) before stopping due to the humid heat.

When dry, it looks terrible, as it is uneven where the white splotches were, but even worse is the rough fuzzy wood did not settle down to a smooth surface. We used these same Gemini cleaner & brighteners several times on our wood deck at our previous house and never any issues at all, so he knows how to apply it…only difference was it was new wood and he applied (as directions said was OK) with a broom instead of spraying.

We’d never enjoy the deck floor feeling that rough fuzz, so he agreed to sand it down and start over. He used 80grit got it better, but it still is slightly rough where the fuzz was, so it isn’t smooth as before, or as I’d like to feel. He insists he could just rinse it and finish staining. I say the instructions require re-cleaning (to open the wood pore from sanding) and re-brightening (to stop the chemical reaction of the cleaner).

1) After all this work, is there anything else to do in order to make the stain soak in well? We are using the 100 Series – Honey tone.
2) One coat or 2, wet-on-wet? (The bench top seems to absorb it well)
3) The resistance to re-cleaning/re-brightening isn’t the work, it’s the belief it created the fuzzing and white splotches. How do we keep that from reoccurring?

We’d appreciate your assistance and direction.

Karen & Paul
5 months ago
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Please clarify a bit, on oxidation/graying removal. The 8mo sun dried, pressure-treated wood still looked new with no graying, so are your referring to the bit of yellow-orange color that came off during the power-wash rinse as the cause for raising the rough “fuzz” of the wood?

My husband has a recollection that a 2nd coat might be applied 1-2 month later that would soak in OK and make it last longer. Is that correct?

P.S. Thanks for your quick reply!

Catherine
5 months ago

After Cleaner and Brightener were used, I applied wet on wet, 3 different sample stains (Rustic, Cal Redwood, Pecan) onto never stained Pressure Treated Pine deck installed 1 year ago – but, all 3 stains looked blotchy. I think that’s because I’m trying to turn PT pine into something it’s not. Could the answer be to use a Semi-Solid stain? Would that be less blotchy over PT pine and have a smoother look? Is there a Semi-Solid photo album showing before and after shots?

Fran
5 months ago

We replaced some rotten boards on existing clear cedar deck. Cleaned, sanded, waiting for a few months for new boards to cure. My question is which stain would look like cedar does when wet? I got samples of Clear, pecan, natural in 1500 series. I live in Portland, or

 
Gary Gamberdine
5 months ago

Where to purchase twp stain 1500 near Nashville TN

Sammy M
6 months ago

I have a new fence installed about 5 weeks ago. The fence has vertical redwood boards in the lower 5 feet section and open lattice in the upper 2 feet. I am in California Bay area. Few questions:

  1. Is TWP 1500 the best choice for this fence?
  2. Is one coat sufficient?
  3. Am I correct that for new fences, I do not need to wait nor prep before painting?
  4. Is spraying appropriate or not?
  5. Some dirt has kicked up onto part of the fence in the bottom. Is the best way to prep the fence for painting pressure washing the dirt off? If so, how long should I wait for it to dry before painting?
Dain A
6 months ago

1000 SqFt Tongue and Groove 1×4 Center Match 3/4” Pine KDAT -Kiln Dried After Treatment @0.80, then dimensionally cut, planed, and t&g’ed.
Replacing existing covered porch decking which has very slight slope so only driven rain. Recommendations ? Should I coat all boards including t&g with 100 PRIOR to installation? Initial coats and timing? Follow on coats/timing?
Thanks

 
john
6 months ago

cleaned and brightened “new” pressured wood { 9 mos aged} but experiencing large white blotches on deck. Presser washed many times and looks good wet. But when it dries, ouch. stained some wood {where the furniture will hide it and looks terrible. I’m thinking I screwed up somewhere, what should I do? Thanks in advance.

john
6 months ago
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Chris
6 months ago

I need to seal my Cumaru *Brazilian hardwood) deck. It is approximately 20×50 feet. What TWP product do you suggest and how many gallons do you think I will need? Thanks

Ethan
7 months ago

Hello – I’ll be cleaning and brightening about 200′ of picket fence this weekend. Do I need to wait at all between cleaning & brightening, or can I apply the brightener immediately after pressure-washing off the cleaner? The directions seem like immediate is OK, just want to make sure.

 
MAB
7 months ago

I had to install a new cedar deck in two batches. Batch 1 has been up for 5 months (Dec-Apr); Batch 2 has just been installed. Not been sanded / nothing applied to it yet.
Both batches are contiguous so I’d really like the color to come out the same when I stain.
From messages below I understand I should let Batch 2 weather for a few months.
Q: would it make sense to sand the whole thing now and then let it weather over the summer?
Q: thinking of TWP100 Natural but would you recommend something darker to make it more uniform?
Live in Austin, TX

MAB
7 months ago
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Thanks. So just let Batch 2 bake in the sun for a few months and then prep with cleaner/ brightener the whole thing at once?

Jon Levine
7 months ago

Following from last question: If I need to let the new boards weather before treating, is there any problem with leaving them in a sunny part of the yard — to weather faster — before installing them? How will I know if they’ve weathered enough to absorb the stain?

Jon Levine
7 months ago

I have a 140sf mahogany deck at the main entrance of our house. We sanded/stained it about 3 years ago with TWP 1516 (Rustic), but it was not applied well — parts were tacky for a couple of weeks, etc.–so the shadiest areas still have quite a bit of stain, while the main walkway is back to gray. It gets heavy wear, lots of snow shoveling in Boston area. So I think it’s best to now strip and brighten (or maybe just sand the whole thing) and re-stain. A few questions:

  1. Five out of about 15 boards are rotting at the ends so need to be replaced; I’ve purchased the new mahogany. So do I need to install those, then wait 4+ months for them to weather before any treatment? (It’s very shady so will take longer than I’d like before being able to refinish.) Or can I install, do stripper/brightener on the whole deck, then maybe do only one coat on the new boards (using an edge guard) and two on the old ones? (Or is one coat sufficient even for the older wood?)
  2. Is the 1500 series the best for penetrating mahogany?
  3. I have about 1/2 a gallon left of the 1516 from 3 years ago. Can I mix it with a new gallon and use? (Even if I go with 2 coats, that would give me enough to only need one additional new gallon, yes?)
 
Ben Eby
7 months ago

I have a newer pressure treated new wood deck. It was installed summer 2021 so it has been out for 8-9 months. The deck surface is 5/4 treated pine. One the help page it says to use TWP100 on new smooth wood. Would this still be considered new wood? Basically, should I be using TWP100 this first time or TWP1500?

Ben Eby
7 months ago
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Northern MI, about 3.5 north of the Ohio border. So it has had a decent winter worth of snow, plus half a summer of sun,

Mac Webb
7 months ago

I sanded my cedar deck 2 years(2020) ago with 60-80 grit sand paper, used the restore cleaner and brighter products before topping with twp 100 series cedar tone stain. My deck at that was over 10 years old. Obtained beautify results. In September 2021 had storm damage to deck due to fallen tree. Will need to replace 10-15 boards. Should I wait 4, 6, months or more before finishing with cleaner, brightener and top coat finish. Also, I take it, it would be best to refinish the entire deck at that time using the 3 step process.

Katerina
7 months ago

hello, we just got new cider fence installed, about 190 linear feet. Can TWP stain be applied to the fence? I used the TWP stain for the deck and I had great results. However, with the fence, I don’t want to deal with cleaning/ brightening /conditioning. Which product would you recommend for a newly installed fence? The fence is in Colorado, Denver Metro area, humidity here is about 30% or less. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

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Ashley Randall
8 months ago

I am interested in purchasing product from you to preserve the fence on my property. It is a total of 102 feet of six-foot shadowbox fence with rough sawn lumber (Total square feet = 1224). It was installed in July of last year and has started graying a little. I want to use a color that looks most “natural”–either the Cedar or Honeytone samples on your site look most like want I would prefer.
Please advise.

Kim
9 months ago

How long can I wait to apply twp 1500 series after I clean my new cured pressure treated deck? The weather is changing and won’t be able to apply stain for a week.

GEORGE J KAFFEZAKIS
10 months ago

Good Morning,
II have recently installed cedar shakes to clad a fireplace and built a horizontal-style fence with cedar siding. I want to protect both but do not want to change the color or use a polyurethane sealer. I am thinking of using you series 1500 clear stain. I also noted you have cedartone but worry that it will make it look not natural. What product would you recommend?

 
Jamie
10 months ago

Should I apply just 1 coat of semi solid stain on dried pressure treated pine? This is for a dock in Alabama. Thanks

Lee
11 months ago

Does new wood need to wait 4 months if it has been kiln dried?

Helen
11 months ago

New home, have cypress shutters and a cypress interior ceiling and beam. Does all of this need to be cleaned and/ or left for months before we can stain it?

 
jessica y johnston
1 year ago

Purchased rough cut cedar from Lowes. Have no idea the history of when it was cut. We have planed the wood and noticed some pieces were wet. How long should we wait before using twp stain?

K Bell
1 year ago

We allowed our new pressure treated deck to weather then properly cleaned and brightened then stained (2 coats wet on wet) with TWP 100 Honeytone. That was 16 month ago and now we would like to apply a maintenance coat to the horizontal areas. It is a very large deck and we are in a time crunch due to temperatures and imited days off work. Do we need to use the Gemini restore kit again or can we just gently clean using the pressure washer and mild soap? Also, if you do recommend the restore kit again, it seems like it would be difficult to keep it off the vertical rails which we weren’t planning to reapply stain to at this time. Will the cleaner or brightener fade or discolor the vertical wood if some accidentally gets on it?

K Bell
1 year ago
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Should I apply 2 coats wet on wet again?

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