Need Some Help With TWP Stains?

by TWP Help

Last Updated on January 20, 2022 by TWP Help

We are here to help you with your TWP exterior deck or wood restoration project for 2022!

TWP is an advanced wood preservative/protectant registered by the EPA. Performance and longevity can vary though depending on the wood type, how the wood is prepped, the age of wood, and how the TWP is applied. We want everyone who has decided to use TWP 100, 1500, or 200 Series to have the best possible results.

When asking questions please give us some information about your wood restoration project:

  • What structure is your wood? Examples would be: Deck, Wood Siding, Fence, etc
  • What species is the wood? Examples: Treated Pine, Cedar, Redwood, Ipe, etc
  • Is the wood new or older than 1 year?
  • Has the wood been stained previously with a different brand? Please specify brand name and type of stain used: Examples: Solid stain, Semi-Transparent Stain, etc.
  • Any additional info that would be useful

Once you supply us with the information, we will able to give you advice as to how to prep your wood and any needed instructions for the TWP application.

Please ask your questions in the comment area.

Thanks

TWP Stain Help Staff

 

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Paul Evans
3 days ago

I just want to check again with you this is a better picture it doesn’t look like all the stain is removed to me? Do you still think brightener only?

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Doug Moore
4 days ago

Carpenter bees are eating me up and I need to match your dark walnut stain with the correct paint color as the wood dough will not stain, any help?

Paul Evans
4 days ago

I used a RAD yesterday to strip and Brighton my deck here in California to remove TWP Honeytone and I see lots of dark spots! Do I need to strip in Brighton a second time?

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Paul Evans
3 days ago
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Is it normal that the wood turns black when you put the brightner on it? It’s just looks to me like all the stain has not been removed?

 
George
4 days ago

I have used TWP the last 2 of 3 years. I skipped last year. I have white cedar.

I was planning on cleaning and then simply re-applying.

Should that be OK? Photos attached.

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Steven Townsend
4 days ago

I have a new deck that I have let cure for 18 months. Used the cleaner and brightener today and followed the directions exactly. Now my wood looks white and ashy. I even went over it twice with the power washer after it dried….still ashy white

Steven Townsend
3 days ago
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I actually power washed twice using the cleaner because of the oxidation.
Its still there.

Steven Townsend
1 day ago
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It looked good wet after the brightener and while wet, however I did stain it and now it looks like the furries did not come off. It actually looks like I put sand on it. I can post a picture later. I’ll post one wet and dry

Kirk
4 days ago

One more question from Kirk in KCMO:
Apply 100 or 1500?

 
Kirk
4 days ago

Hello From Kansas City Missouri,
We moved into a home with a deck that has the following on it (see pics). What would you recommend to remove existing? A chemical or sand it off. I believe this is treated wood.
Thank you,
Kirk

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Michael Dryden
5 days ago

Hello, I purchased a 5 gallon bucket of the TWP 200 clear sealant and it was dented pretty bad and the label was faded. The PPG store said it would be fine and gave me a discount. When I opened the can a day later I noticed a 1/4 layer of thick white stuff on the bottom that won’t mix in well. Is this standard or normal?

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JenniferK
5 days ago

I am refinishing a completely solid oak door. I have stripped the old stain off one side and sanded. The interior will be painted but the exterior i would like to stain. I am in northern NJ and the door will be southwest facing. There is a covering over the door and does not ofter get wet but does receive quite a bit of sun later in the day. Which of your transparent products would you recommend for the best protection?

JenniferK
5 days ago
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Well that is a confusing response. Why are you talking about a sheen

JenniferK
5 days ago
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Oh. Ok. Thank you

 
HANS
6 days ago

will the stripper damage the painted finish on my siding/trim that’s next to the deck should I happen to get some on it while spraying it on the deck?

tom manzione
6 days ago

Good day I have a composite deck that is at least 13 years old Lost its luster Looking to brighten it up Its a reddish deck composite What can you suggest ?

Tom Manzione
5 days ago
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Here is a picture

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Tom Manzione
5 days ago
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You recommend a cleaning product and color close to it ?thank you

Tom Manzione
5 days ago
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Can you suggest best way to prep it and a color close to the deck to use? Thank you

William Burgess
6 days ago

I have a couple pieces of outdoor wood (exterior siding, wood shutters and patio posts) most likely pine (installed by the builder) which was painted with Olympic maximum stain and sealant semi transparent about 5 years ago. The total age of the wood is about 9 years old. I would like to redo them all in the TWP 100 or 1500. What procedure would I need to do fully prepare the wood for treatment. Thank you.

William Burgess
6 days ago
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Here are some pictures of the wood, two different color stains.

For some reason the images didn’t upload, here they are on imgur

https://imgur.com/a/wkbRabt

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William Burgess
6 days ago
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The additives are used with the cleaner? Or would I also need the stain stripper? Would I need to sand at all? Thanks

 
Paul Evans
7 days ago

What is the difference between RAD Stripper Kit and Gemini Restore-A-Deck Kit?

Teagan
7 days ago

Hello, Is kitty litter a safe way to dry out the remaining stain (roughly a gallon from a 5 gallon) for safe disposal with regular trash?

Doug
7 days ago

What product do you recommend for log cabins? The wood is stripped and sanded.

Doug
6 days ago
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The Cabin is in South Lake Tahoe, CA. The logs are prefab. pine, and the cabin was built in the 50’s. The logs are in fairly good condition.

Doug
6 days ago
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Thank you

 
Maggie
7 days ago

I have a 9 y/o cedar deck that I was only able to apply stain to some places because it got too hot, now I’m concerned when I apply the rest there might be lines between the stain marks. Will this happen? How can I apply stain to sections since I am having to stain over an extended period of time?

Historically, I’ve used TWP 1500 every couple years. This year, I switched to the semi-solid so to prep I used RAD to strip the entire thing, brightened, then hand-sanded (took several days and of course the weather delays things with continued off/on rain).

I *finally* started staining early one morning but only got the main posts, partial railings and some floorboards (to blend in drips) before it got too hot and was curing too quickly. Of course a few days later it’s rained so now I have to wait even longer to continue but now I’m worried about having it partially done in some spots–will the stain have demarcations or lines where it was partially stained and then new stain applied?

If you tell me it will and I need to strip it again I may have to just burn the entire thing down! Hahaaa

Maggie
7 days ago
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Uuuuuugh. Thanks for the quick response. (lights bonfire)

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Maggie
3 days ago
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No lap lines! Blended totally fine wet on dry, even in places that were super bad and had hard edges/lines. I started to use turpentine and sanding on the hard lines but there was no need, the Lighthouse semi-solid went on completely fine, covered even the worst places, didn’t dry shiny or anything. Very happy! No bonfire needed!

While I do prefer the color of my previous 1500 Redwood better because it has a blue/burgundy undertone compared to the brown/orange of Lighthouse, I really love the more opaque look and very forgiving nature (blends better and such) of the semi-solid. Glad you have it as an option now. Hoping you might introduce a more burgundy/maroon red in the future. Thanks!

Steve
7 days ago

Background: Large, ~20+ year old cedar deck in Pacific Northwest. Prep + treated uncovered portion of the deck in Aug 2019 with gemini cleaner/brightener then stained (via a professional crew) with TWP100 series cedartone 101. Uncovered portion not touched.

This year: I plan on re-staining the previously stained portion with the same TWP100 cedartone 101. Horizontal stain is failing. Vertical doing better. Also, I have 3 new boards (see pic). I also want to remove the very old solid Sherwin Williams deckscapes stain from the covered portion of the deck and apply new cedartone 101 so that the stain matches.

Questions:

  1. Do I use gemini cleaner/brightner on the previously stained TWP100 cedartone? Or should I use restore-a-deck? Not sure how to prep.
  2. Do I need to do anything on the new boards besides sand them and let them age? I want to stain next month so length of aging might be too short (new boards = ~May ’22).
  3. How do I strip off the old sherwin williams stain? Combo of restore-a-deck and mechanical? (i.e. diamond paint remover blade on an angle grinder or big floor sander is my plan).

Cheers

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Steve
1 day ago
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I have aluminum railings + posts. Will the restore-a-deck stripper mentioned above damage the aluminum?

Cherine Hazzi
8 days ago

I have a 400 sq foot cedar deck stained 2 times with sickens translucent oil based stain since it was built 6 years ago. I am in Quebec. It needs restraining and has some pealing mostly on outer perimeter.
What are your prep. Other than power washing and type and amount of stain.
PS. The present colour is clear oak.
Thanks.

 
Robert Oley
8 days ago

I posted a question a few weeks ago about the stain not drying in previous years after staining and the response was to purchase a stripper and brighter product from TWP and use it.
So I purchased the product and clean the deck then stripped it, then used the brighter the hosed it off for almost an hour. I let it dry for two days the stained it with the 1516 stain plus a second coat with 20 minutes of finishing the 1st coat.
After it dried the finish was not even almost spotty. Like some spot the stain was absorbed into the wood other parts not. Have have included some pictures.
Your product has always worked well for me so I can’t understand what the problem is.
Any suggestions?
Thank you

Robert Oley
8 days ago
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Here are some

Robert Oley
8 days ago
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I have more pictures if you need
But could only download so much at one time due to size limit

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Larry Fehd
8 days ago

Hello, I replaced several 2”x 6” cedar deck boards 30-days ago. How much time should I give new boards to age and dry before applying the TWP semi-solid Cabin Fever stain? If I sand boards would that accelerate aging and drying? Not in any hurry to stain, just want to get it right. Thank you! Austin, TX

elaine
9 days ago

I have two gallons in a five gallon bucket left from a previous job. How long is the twp stain 100 series cedartone good for?? I have kept it in the house. I also have an unopened 5 gallon can, can I use this?

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elaine
9 days ago
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unopened??

 
Doug
10 days ago

Two summers ago I stripped, brightened and sanded my existing deck and applied TWP 115 Honeytone. I results were outstanding. I wish to restrain this summer. What do I do to prepare it? Clean or brighten? I noticed you no longer offer TWP 115. Should use Honeytone again or something lighter to preserve the color?

Dave
11 days ago

Have a couple gallons of 100 series cedar tone left. Can I mix with 1500 series cedar tone?

Beverly Folsom
12 days ago

HI, I’ve stained my 1- 2 year old deck and cattle panel fence, both made of pressure treated pine, with a 100 series, 2 parts Dark Oak to 1 part Rustic. As it dries, it’s a gorgeous color that warms my home and adds the last touches to the exterior.

I still have rough hewn posts on my porch to go. I know the rough hewn is going to absorb at much higher rate than the pressure treated. Therefore come in much darker if I don’t adjust. Do you suggest I a)”cut” the 100 series with a solvent b) add a clear tone (what color? what ratio?) c) other suggestions?

 
Rebecca Mattix
12 days ago

TWP 102 Redwood applied to a redwood deck after stripping and brightening in 2020. The results were stunning!! NOW, 2022, Where the chair legs move and the snow is shoveled it is down to exposed redwood again.
Local deck people said NOT to use a brightener, just powerwash and apply a new coat of TWP.
Is the TWP 1500 a better option? Can I put TWP 1500 over this?

David
12 days ago

I will be applying TWP 1500 series to a new mostly smooth redwood railing. I was thinking of completing the deck after the wood weathers sufficiently, so as to be able to coat all surfaces of the wood, not just the exposed surfaces (that is, including the surfaces that will be covered by another piece of wood). I thought that would be a good idea, but I have seen hints that maybe it is not to treat all sides of the wood, exposed or not, something relating to “air circulation” or “trapping moisture”. What is the official word on this?

Thanks

Kelley
13 days ago

Any advice for staining around metal spindles?

 
Jim
14 days ago

I have some TWP 100 series cedar I used two year ago. Half is left in the 5 gallon container. I opened it and it has settled into liquid and solid layers. I started mixing and it seems to be breaking up, but wondered if it will return to its original form with more aggressive mixing>

Bob Edmonson
14 days ago

Hello from Iowa. I have a 20 year old Cedar deck that I have been using TWP 100 Pro Series on for past 4 years. Is it necessary to use stripper before resealing again? Or is pressure washing adequate to remove dirt?

Bob
13 days ago
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Do you think it’s necessary to stain every year w/TWP?

Richard
14 days ago

Hi

I’ve a cedar deck that I used TWP 100 on a few years ago (great product)- now it looks like it needs redone again. How should I prep the deck – is stiff brush clean sufficient before application with TWP 100 again?

 
Jane Moran
14 days ago

I would like to use the Safe Strip for the floor and steps. Does this replace using the deck cleaner? Or would I strip, clean and then brighten?
Thank You!

Jane Moran
15 days ago

Recommended air temps to apply TWP is 60-80 degrees( optimal) , 50-85 degrees okay?
What about applying early in day at these temps but it will be hotter later in day- possibly 95 degrees.
Does optimal temps include drying time after stain has been applied?

William Palmer
15 days ago

I have left over TWP Total Wood Preservative Dark Oak that I need more. I do not see it on your website. Is this a semi-transparent or a semi-solid? What is the equivalent for an Ohio application?

William Palmer
15 days ago
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Can I place the semi-solid over the TWP Total Wood Preservative? It must be a semi-solid as the wood has aged considerably. Thank you.

William Palmer
15 days ago
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The UV rays are not providing enough long term coverage to last two years. Will I be able to place a semi-solid over the last semi-transparent coating?

 
Nora
15 days ago

Hi–the item needing to be stained is a log porch swing. The wood type is non-treated, kiln dried, white cedar. I am looking for an authentic-looking cedar stain. The postage stamp-sized color “swatches” on your web site aren’t that helpful to me. Which oil-based cedar color would provide the most “natural” and warm cedar color?

Di Day
16 days ago

A couple more questions:

1). Can we wear those (typically) blue shoe/boot covers to protect the deck and our shoes?

2). I see that your tool for staining between the planks is out of stock. I was wondering if you had other suggestions.

3). Do you have recommendations for the sequencing of doing the crevices and then the planks? Can we do the crevices of three or four planks and then go back to cover the plank surfaces?

Thank you for your help.

Di Day
16 days ago

Is there anything we should/could do if there an unexpected rain shower within minutes/hours of applying the stain?

 
Michelle Jackson
19 days ago

I have an old deck that (about 20+ years old). I have used both TWP 1500 and TWP100 in the past, but the wood is getting a lot of cracks in it and looks like it might be better to use TWP200 this year to help restore it. This deck gets a lot of foot traffic from my dogs. There nails do scratch it sometimes. I am located in MI. The deck gets morning/early afternoon sun and then late afternoon/evening shade. I don’t know the wood type, but I suspect 20 years ago it was treated pine. Would a better stain choice be TWP 200 or TWP 100? Since TWP200 is high solids I am afraid that with the foot traffic it might now hold up.

Henry
19 days ago

Where do I find care and maintenance instructions

Henry
19 days ago

Where do I find a copy of the Manufacturer Warranty

 
Steve
22 days ago

Using a semi-solid stain on an old deck that quickly absorbs it. After applying a second coat, wet on wet, how long does it need to dry before it could be rained on without affecting its performance. The deck is on the south side, so receives a lot of sun in the Iowa summers.

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Connie
22 days ago

Live in WV, stained 10 yr old deck in October after stripping, cleaning/brightening then applying one coat of TWP semi-solid. I feel like it needs a second coat, (have extra). Do I need to use the restore kit again to clean/brighten of just wash and stain? Or do I need to wait a year? Thank you.

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Lauren
22 days ago

How can I remove excess stain that didn’t fully absorb into the wood? There’s a few spots that are sticky with the excess stain but the rest looks great.

 
Jim
23 days ago

I just received the 3rd 5-gallon pail of TWP 1500 I’ve ordered in the 10+ years I’ve owned a cedar deck. I’ve been stripping and neutralizing every 2-3 years prior to staining and am wondering if I’m overdoing it. If I am restaining the deck with the same TWP1500 stain every 2-3 years do I need to strip the deck as well? Or can the cleaner/brightener be used without stripping? The well-traveled areas of the deck that also get the most direct sunlight tend to look more worn out over time and some discoloration and maybe even flaking of the stain will be evident if I wait 3 years to restain. I guess what I’m asking is when should I just use a cleaner/brightener vs. stripper/brightener? Thank you. Jim

Perry
24 days ago

Stained my deck a month ago with TWP cap cod. I restained it using the cleaner/brightner and it turned out great. Just moved a hot tub off deck, and underneath is non stained wood. How do I get it to blend well with the TWP stian I put on?

Perry
24 days ago
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What’s the best process to get it close as possible

Perry
24 days ago
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What’s the best process to stain the area that was covered?

Jean day
25 days ago

I’m a TWP 101 user/believer in Florida with a quarter can left. I have a strip of raw rough cypress I was going to leave underground to shore up the underground end of a mailbox post. If I soak or brush the 101 on the Cypress before I use it and bury it, would it help to preserve the wood strip? Many thanks.

 
Dwayne
26 days ago

Good Morning, I’m looking for an authorized dealer in Elizabethtown Pennsylvania

John Buchanan
28 days ago

I purchased a cedar hot tub, 60″ diameter x 48″ height, manufactured by Canadian Hot Tubs. This is a lined hot tub meaning that the cedar wall slats are not exposed on the inside to the hot tub water. I used 1501 Cedertone, two coats, applied with a brush & wiped clean with a cloth, on both the sides & the top slats. My question is about the top slats. The finish was applied in a garage @ 60 degrees. The tub went outside in December (Upstate NY – zip 12804 is the location) Here we are in June, so call it 6 months later. The sides, which are vertical (of course), are doing fine – spectacular even!! The roll-top cedar slats, which are horizontal, are doing much less better meaning that they look like they are already in need of another coat. Question 1 – this seems unusual to me, is it? Question 2 – if I recoat the top slats, should I lightly sand them prior (or?) or simply put more product on them. The slats are mounted on a thick ‘vinyl’ carrier (pics if you would like to see them), which means they do not sit in water, ever, however are continuously exposed to whatever weather is happening.
Thoughts??

Thank you
John

Bob
28 days ago

Hi,

I have a new cedar fence that was installed 4 weeks ago. Based on previous posts, I see that you suggest waiting 4 months before applying TWP 1501. I would like to apply your product before the cedar starts to grey. The vertical panels absorb water quickly. Water on the top rail on the fence (there is lattice on the top 15 inches of the fence) beads for about 3 seconds before absorbing.

Can cedar fences be ready for staining before 4 months? I am not sure how long it will take the fence to start turning grey.

Thank you

Bob

Bob
28 days ago
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Smooth wood for the vertical boards. The rail on top is a 2×3 board but I do not know if that is considered rough-sawn.

 
R.J.
29 days ago

I have a 16 year old deck in Michigan that has never been stained. I like the color choices of the semi solid pro series the best. I’m looking at doing a combination of Earth and Charcoal for Deck and railing combo. Would this be the appropriate product for my area? Also what sets your products apart from something I could get at a big box store? I want to make sure If I am going to invest in the project that it is going to last and hold up to the elements.

JSM
29 days ago

Is it ok to apply 100 Series stain if rain is expected 14 hours from application? Drying temperature will be in the high 80’s

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