Need Some Help With TWP Stains?

by TWP Help

Last Updated on January 30, 2023 by TWP Help

We are here to help you with your TWP exterior deck or wood restoration project for 2024!

TWP is an advanced wood preservative/protectant registered by the EPA. Performance and longevity can vary though depending on the wood type, how the wood is prepped, the age of wood, and how the TWP is applied. We want everyone who has decided to use TWP 100, 1500, or 200 Series to have the best possible results.

TWP Stain Tips and Help

When asking questions please give us some information about your wood restoration project:

  • What structure is your wood? Examples would be: Deck, Wood Siding, Fence, etc
  • What species is the wood? Examples: Treated Pine, Cedar, Redwood, Ipe, etc
  • Is the wood new or older than 1 year?
  • Has the wood been stained previously with a different brand? Please specify brand name and type of stain used: Examples: Solid stain, Semi-Transparent Stain, etc.
  • Any additional info that would be useful

Once you supply us with the information, we will able to give you advice as to how to prep your wood and any needed instructions for the TWP application.

Please ask your questions in the comment area.

Thanks

TWP Stain Help Staff

 

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Arnie
5 years ago

Rebuilding 1000 sq ft deck with kiln dried 5/4 cedar…
How long to wait before applying semi-transparent Cape Cod Gray…How much will I need…any prep required on this new wood…

Scott
5 years ago

Can I mix 1501 Cedartone & 1503 Dark Oak together to end up with a color between the two?
I’d like to end up with a stain a little darker than the Cedartone & a little lighter than the Dark Oak.

Marv Thiem
5 years ago

I have a composite deck built in 2000. It is a very faded dull gray. We want to put some life back into it and saw your product. Can I stain the gray deck with one of your color stains or should I choose your gray stain. We would prefer not to do the gray if possible.

Thank you

 
Joshua Lowe
5 years ago

Hello, brand new deck with top grade pressure treated pine. The wood is straight from Home Depot and is very green/wet. My deck builders, who have been doing this for 20+ years put the deck boards as close together as possible. They say when they dry they will shrink and gaps will appear. According to them, the sweet spot to stain a deck is in about 2-3 weeks when 1/8” cracks start to appear between the deck boards. Wait too long and those 1/8” gaps will turn into 1/4” gaps. But I read on your web site to wait 4-6 months? Also, water is not beading up on the pressure treated pine – do I still need some type of prep on these new boards?

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Joshua Lowe
5 years ago
Reply to  TWP Help

Thank you for your quick reply! So I am 95% sold on your product. I am also considering Behr semi-transparent deck stain/sealer. Reading their web site, they don’t require a 4-12 month wait. While I’m sure you don’t want to educate me on your competition – I am sure you are familiar with their product. Can you speak to what makes TWP different in that you recommend 4-12 months where as Behr recommends cleaning to remove mill wax and then proceeding directly to staining brand new wood? Does the fact that my deck is GA with direct sun make a difference? How will I know when the deck is ready to apply TWP?

george munson
5 years ago

I used the 115 stain last year on my deck. The deck was sanded prior to coating and two coats were put down after one year the area exposed to sunlight looks terrible compare to the unexposed areas. Does this mean I need to re-coat every year? Would send a picture but google won’t let me copy and paste the picture off my phone.

george munson
5 years ago
Reply to  TWP Help

Not sure if my previous comment was seen since I haven’t seen a reply. But the problem can’t be related to sanding because the whole floor was sanded with a commercial sander and the only area which looks terrible is where direct sunlight hits the floor. I believe I need the find a stain/coating system with more UV protection (assuming this product has UV protection).

george munson
5 years ago
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Here are a couple of pictures to show the difference where sun hit and where it was protected by a rug in the first picture and a planter base in the second picture. Both areas had two coats of stain.

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george munson
5 years ago
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So are you telling that the areas where the sun hits is OK. I think it looks terrible. That’s the issue, not whether it’s sanded correctly. Your telling me that this product is going to look bad every year and there is nothing I can do about it. Thank for the help.

george munson
5 years ago
Reply to  TWP Help

So if I strip your stain and power wash, and the stain soaks in as you state, will TWP guarantee the finish not to fade in one year as mine has done? Just a note, I applied two coats because the first coat absorbed so much stain.

Dadman
5 years ago

6 foot cedar fence (AC2 posts and rails) completed June-December 2017.

Bought the stain (1500 series Honeytone) December 2017, but ran out of good weather. No coating on fence.

Looks like I need to use cleaner/brightener now? And will the stain be able to be stirred (or should I take it in to a paint store to have it mixed?)

Any other fence tips, please let me know!

 
Jay Remington
5 years ago

I am guessing the people who applied TWP stain did not prep properly. It has been over 20 hours and it is still not dry. Actually still wet in some areas. What do I do? It is 55 degrees and sunny.

Patrick
5 years ago

I have a deck that I have only used TWP on previously. What do I have to do to prep this wood before applying TWP again.

Christine
5 years ago

Hello, I have a log sided house (2,190 sq.ft.) located in the upper North Country of New Hampshire that needs to be re-stained. My Benjamin Moore dealer has advised me that TWP is what I want to use.
So, my first question is what should I use to clean it? Should I just power wash it with plain water?
The weather conditions are very cold and very windy 7/12 months. So my second question is which TWP product should I use?
I would be grateful for any information you can provide.
Thank you for your time.

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Christine
5 years ago
Reply to  TWP Help

I believe the previous owner used Thompson Water Seal.
Thank you for the quick reply!

 
Amie Ware
5 years ago

In 2016 we put in a new Cedar fence. We stained with Thompson Waterseal (tinted on railings and post, clear on slat inserts).
In 2017 it started pealing pretty badly. We are ready to redo it and want to use quality products. Would you suggest using the RAD Stripper to strip the old stain off then the brightener? After that would you suggest using the 1500 or 100 series? We live in Utah. I have attached pictures of the fence.

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Amie Ware
5 years ago
Reply to  TWP Help

Why would 1500 be better than 100 Series? Just wondering. Thanks for responding so fast!

Debra
5 years ago

Last summer I put TWP100 on yellow wood deck that was built several years ago. I used Gemini restore a deck cleaner and brightener and finished with 2 coats TWP100 wet on wet wiping excess as necessary. Should I apply a maintenance coat this summer? Portions of the deck get hot afternoon Missouri sun. If so, should I use the cleaner and brightener same process as for initial application for the maintenance coat? Thanks in advance for your help.

Roger Manasco
5 years ago

We installed a 20 x 24 pressure-treated deck in 2008. Shamefully, we admit to never sealing, staining, or applying anything. We live in Oklahoma, where the summers are hot and dry. Surprisingly, the deck is still holding up rather well, considering.

We have cleaned the deck with a pressure washer, and would like to use one of the TWP products to stain and seal in one application preferably water-based, unless you can convince us that oil-based would be better. Some of the boards will be replaced, so we understand there will be a color difference. Please advise which product would be our best choice.

Thank you.

 
Bill Seegar
5 years ago

I have a Bailey Marine Dock about 20 years old the deck planks are treated 2”X12”X12’. I am not sure the wood type may be yellow pine. The surface of most planks is good but splintering a good bit. Professionals tell me I have a decade or more of life in the wood planks. I want to preserve what I have and try to reduce splintering on the surface. Baily Marine engineers recommend TWP Cedartone.
They say two coats, the first followed by a second 15 minutes later. And power wash the wood first. Do you have any further recommendations? My principle concern is also minimizing splinters. Will the TWP I have selected seal the surface of the wood and reduce splinters? Do you think you have a better product to seal and reduce splintering? Thanks for the advice.
Bill Seegar
Easton, Maryland

Donald Kinison
5 years ago

Want to stain a new never stained treated wood fence and want to use TWP 100 cedar tone is this ok

Bryce
5 years ago

I have a shadowbox style cedar fence, roughly 18 months old and now weathered gray. I never stained it but plan to stain it with the TWP 100 Cedartone. Should I use the cleaner/brightner kit to get the gray out or will just a bleach solution work? Will that require a pressure washer? When using a pump sprayer to apply, do I need to cover my grass to keep from killing it? I used stainless steel nails, will the stain react with those?

Bryce
5 years ago
Reply to  TWP Help

I used the stripper and brightener on some posts last fall and I have a lot left over, will that work?

 
Patty Conti
5 years ago

Stripped a Redwood deck last spring and stained with 1500 series TWP, wet on wet. Turned out awesome and can’t wait to see how it looks this spring (once the snow melts!). What do I do this year for maintenance? Thanks much. It was so much work stripping this very large deck and I was beyond relieved when I applied your product which made the back-breaking work well worth it. It turned out beautiful.

Patty Conti
4 years ago
Reply to  TWP Help

It’s been two years since I stripped and stained my deck with your product. I want to stain it again before this summer. If I use your restore product, does it completely remove the old stain (starting all over again?). I only plan to stain the decking and not the pickets – I’m concerned about the restore product getting on other areas (dripping down the side of the decking) and messing up the old stain that I don’t need to re-do.

Wayne Thompson
5 years ago

I have a new pressure treated pine deck. I’s now in the seasoning phase. I like the natural color and am inclined to select TWP Natural or Honeytone color. The previous deck got a lot of UV damage (checking, splitting, and splintering). Would a darker TWP color do a better job of resisting UV damage?

Jeff Christ
5 years ago

I have a new pine fence that was installed 3 weeks ago. Live in Charleston, SC. Want to use best semi transparent oil based stain. How long should I wait to stain and how best to prep for staining? What’s best stain/sealer?
Thanks

 
jim belky
5 years ago

ready to purchase second 5 gal twp 100 . the first was used on the deck . this one will be used to re-stain log cabin exterior . what is the proper re-staining procedure and how do i get a color match. i believe the previous owner used cedar tone (found a empty can ) but can’t be sure. it seems that the color has darkened. thanks.

Beth
5 years ago

I’m so confused. I have a 12 year old redwood gate that was originally finished with polyurethane. I’ve sanded it very well and power washed it. It’s in good condition and now I want to put a product on it that is NOT polyurethane as it peeled and cracked over the years. I just want the wood to be well protected. I live in southern Arizona where we obviously get a lot of sun and heat and when it rains, it really rains. I don’t want to change the color dramatically but a true redwood is very nice. I’ve done a lot of research and many sights keep recommending your products. Can you please help me decide which will be the absolute best of your products for my project? Thanks very much.

 
Rick
5 years ago

We are considering using Twp on a 40 year old cedar spided that has never been stained but is in surprising good shape because it is in the forest. If we apply twp can the subsequent owner apply any type ( latex, acrylic….) stain to the house?
Thx

Cher
5 years ago

We installed new vertical cedar siding and fascia 3 years ago and stained it with TWP 101 Cedartone Natural. Looks fantastic! However the fascia that is exposed to the sun is fading and other areas that are not in the sun are darkening. What is the best method to maintain and refresh it?

David Schneider
5 years ago

I’m in the midst of refinishing some exterior old growth redwood siding, I have used TWP semi transparent stain in the past. I would like to know what are the compatible wood fillers to be used with TWP stains..? Do you offer compatible wood fillers with every solid-color stain? Semitransparent..?

 
Steve
5 years ago

I used to 1500 last year on my cedar deck, looked great. Now I have a lot of grime and mildew on the deck boards and top rail. I would like to restrain this year using the same stain. Will I have to strip or just use the Gemini restore kit?

Neil Loeb
5 years ago

I have 5 gallons of 1500 honeytone. The color is to light. Can I mix it with cedar to make it darker?

Scott
5 years ago

I have some untreated wood columns that I’m planning on using to support a cover over a deck. I would like to use twp stain as the preservative for it but I have a question on application. You say to let it weather for 4-12 months before applying the stain, but if I do that, how can I apply the stain to the wood that is covered by the fasteners used to secure the columns?

 
Amy
5 years ago

does TWP need to be stored above 50 degrees or is it okay that it’s been out in the cold but I’m going to apply it once it’s over 50 degrees outside

Bruce galyan
5 years ago

Hello. Just installed cedar fence, 1/2 x 6″ x 6′ slats on 2×4 pt runners, screwed to 4×4 pt posts. Can be treated now? What product? Saw 2 different answers in help, 1 says series 100 and other says 1500. Also saw 2 diff answers about timing. Your help is greatly appreciated. Also want to spray on with low prssure spray as 1 side is up against chain link fence that is 4′ high making brush or roller impossible. Thanks! Bruce

Amy
5 years ago

We are staining western cedar fresh from the saw mill. Some wood is older cuts some. We want to apply Bora Care pesticide. Will this affect effectiveness of your stain? I know dry time for Bora Care is 72 hours. Thanks

 
Dick Latson
5 years ago

I am prepping a new cedar fence (installed 12 months ago) to apply TWP 101 Cedar stain. I will wet with bleach solution, wash, let dry and apply Restore-A-Deck all before applying stain. My question is – the fence has galvanized steel post – should I wrap these to protect them from any of the applications I have mentioned?

Dick Latson
5 years ago
Reply to  TWP Help

Thank you, so the TWP 101 will not discolor the post? It will need to sprayed on due to the configuration of the boards (pic. attached)

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Zeke
5 years ago

Due to some poor planning on my part and unlucky weather, I’m worried I’m not going to be able to stain my deck before the winter kicks in. I’m located just west of Boston. I have a cedar deck that I prepped per your instructions about six weeks ago. I have TWP 1500 ready to go. But every time the temperature has been above 50, it has rained within a day.
At this point, what is my best option? Stain it despite the cold? Cover it with a tarp for the winter? This Sunday the forecast is for a high of 47 degrees but it’s going to rain again and will go down to 39 degrees at nigh. I’m considering staining anyway with a tarp set up to protect it from the rain, but will be tricky and not sure it’s a good idea anyway.
Thanks!

chris
5 years ago

Hello,

I’m looking to stain a 15 year old pressure treated pine deck, which is at ground level (no verticals) this coming Spring 2019. Question is I have done minor repairs (filling holes, replacing boards, etc.) over time, and there are some color differences due to wood putty, newer boards. Will TWP cover these differences?
What stain TWP 100 or 1500 would you recommend? Location is Eastern, PA.

Thanks

chris
5 years ago
Reply to  TWP Help

Thank you. The wood “putty” I used is actually called Durhams water putty.
I had to use it to fill cracks/splinters in the wood. It dries very hard, and is off-white in color. Would it be best for me to try multiple “patch” coats of TWP 1500 to cover these areas prior to the “finish coats”?
Thanks

chris
5 years ago
Reply to  TWP Help

OK. Thank you. What would you think if I just touched up the spots with an oil based paint that kind of matches the existing deck color, then put the TWP 1500 over it to finish?

chris
5 years ago
Reply to  TWP Help

Thanks again. I’ll give that a try.

 
Leo Lanigan
6 years ago

We have painted our deck and it looks blotchy. Is this because we didn’t strip it correctly?

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Leo Lanigan
6 years ago
Reply to  TWP Help

I’m meant to say that we used two 1500 series, not paint. Does this still hold true? Our whole house and deck is redwood. Maybe we should have cleaned this area better as well? It had a type of white wash.

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Chris
6 years ago

I have a cedar deck that was stained with TWP 101 a couple of years ago. I power washed the deck and intended to use the Gemini restore kit and then apply TWP 101. But within a day of power washing, the temperature has dropped too low to stain and I don’t know if it will ever be warm enough long enough to finish the job. Will the deck be okay until spring?

Theresa
6 years ago

Is pressure treated wood considered new wood or can I stain now.

 
Mark
6 years ago

I have a new open trailer with marine plywood that I would like to seal with TWP100as I have it on hand. Are there any issues with using this on new marine grade plywood?

Matt
6 years ago

We recently used TWP 120 (Pecan) on our siding. The siding had been previously stained with an unknown semi-transparent stain and a varnish coat on top of that. We took it down to the wood with sanding, cleaned and brightened the wood and then applied the TWP 120.

The project looks good – but my surprise is the color turned out to be darker than pictures would indicate and even the test samples I applied. It also has stronger tones of red and orange than I was expecting.

It still looks good, I think, but I’m wondering why the color and shade was so different?

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Chris
6 years ago

If it rains 1 time on my deck after ive cleaned & brightened it… .. if i let it dry for 48hrs, can i still stain with twp 100, or would i hafta brighten again? Can’t seem to get 4-5 dry days in a row this fall here in VA.

 
M.D.
6 years ago

Hi,

I have a pressure treated pine wood fence that has weathered for 8 months now. The fence boards are 3/4″ thick vs. the more common 5/8″. They are more smooth than the standard boards. Contractor did a poor job power washing it after 8 months and boards now have ‘furring’. More in some areas than others. I need to stain 2700sq.ft. and I do not want to have to sand the boards due to the furring.

I live in NC and can order either TWP 100 or 1500 series.

1. I do not want boards to turn ‘gray’. Is there a difference between the 100 and 1500 series? Is one better than the other if I have a choice to pick either?

2. Will applying stain with Graco Magnum X5 spayer and back brushing any ‘drippage’ cover the ‘furring’, or will the ‘furring’ show as light ‘powder’ on top of the stained boards?

3. I am split between cedar and pecan. The color chart does not show that the cedar has the ‘orange’ tint to it as many cedar stains do. If I want to stay away from the ‘orange’ look, would you say that Pecan is similar without the ‘orange’? Or will pecan be darker?

4. Can someone who has applied TWP stain to weathered, smooth mill, pressure treated fence tell me what the coverage one gallon has? I am reading anywhere from 150-400 sq.ft under different sites including manufacturer’s which is a huge difference in trying to figure out how much I would need to order.

5. How long would it take to dry after application in about 50-60 degree temps/Oct/Nov weather?

6. Do I need to use a moister reader to make sure boards are completely dry before applying? What is recommended reading?

7. I am planning to apply this stain myself (no helper for other side of fence), thus I am planning on working on 3 ft. sections at a time, back brush and then go to other side of fence to do the same. Will any drippage onto the unfinished side while working on one side blend when I get to the unfinished side or will it show drip marks? Shall I wipe clean (with a rag) any drip marks before applying a fresh coat on unfinished side?

8. What type of tip for a sprayer do you recommend I use for ‘standard’ 6″ boards?

Thank you for your assistance.

I have uploaded photos of fence after it was installed, then after 8 months of weathering and power washing and up and up close photo to show ‘furring’ after power wash.

/M.D

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David DeLancey
6 years ago

hi …
I am going to re-stain a red wood deck with 1500 redwood. I built the deck new and stained it with TWP about 18 months ago. I had purchased 5 gallons and have about 1/2 of that still left. It is very thick from being in the can a long time. What should I thin it with?

Best regards,
David DeLancey

Clark
6 years ago

I am restoring a covered front porch, with railings and columns, that was made of pressure treated wood 19 years ago with no maintenance since then, in upstate NY. I used your cleaner and brightener, with a pressure washer. I sanded with 40 grit and then with 80 grit; so it is fully prepped. I am using TWP1500 cedartone (5 gal), and have sprayers, pads, and brushes.

I fell behind schedule and it is now late October, with a cold spell, so instead of highs in the 50s and low 60s it will barely reach 50 degrees for the next 10 days, with variable rain forecasts.

Considering that this is a covered porch that won’t receive direct rain; at how low a temperature can I safely stain with TWP1500? The cleaned and sanded wood looks like new and I would hate to lose the benefit of all the prep work by waiting until next year.

 
Sherri
6 years ago

Do you make a pecan stain that is a solid color ?

Donna
6 years ago

Last month our painter used TWP 200 series in Slate Gray to stain our cedar sidewall shingles on our garage. There was a lot of dried pigment at the bottom of the 5 gallon can that could not be stirred up into the stain. Quite a lot of the pigment was rock hard at the bottom of the 5 gallon can. One coat of stain was applied but it looks like the shingles could use another coat since there was so much dried up pigment at the bottom of the can. The labels on the can indicated it was manufactured in July of 2017 even though I just bought it in September of 2018. Can a second coat of the 200 series in Slate Gray be applied? If yes, how long do we need to wait to put on the second coat? Thank you.

Donna
6 years ago
Reply to  Donna

Good to know. Thank you. I called Gemini directly at the number provided by TWP but I haven’t received a call back. The Tech Guy was busy so I had to leave my name and number and wait for him to call me back. We’ll see if I get a call back.

Mark
6 years ago

I stained my deck for first time after 5 months of weathering. After 24 hours, deck floor is sticky. What should I do?

 
Jim
6 years ago

Want to stain my fence with 1500 series oil based tomorrow and temp will be 65 degree for two days but down around 36 at night . Will I be ok to stain the fence being that scold at night ?

Jim
6 years ago
Reply to  TWP Help

Not a question but we just finished putting on ten gallon of cedar tone 101 oil base with a pump up sprayer and back brushing it and it worked and looked amazing . Thanks for a great product .

Andrew
6 years ago

Hello. I’ve been immersed in restoring my cedar deck over last 5 weeks. The deck is 20 years old, in need of surface restoration. I’ve stripped older TWP 100 Cedartone from nearly all surfaces, 21 gallons worth. Once stripped it became obvious deep sanding was necessary, which I accomplished with floor, belt, orbital and blocks. Where this was done, stain went in deep, wet on wet required. Looks incredible.
But the lower portion of horizontal surface was stripped, brightened 5-6 weeks ago. It’s greyed out. And need of extensive surface sanding.
I’ve run out of time and ideal weather window. Should I leave as is, tackle next spring, or will the presently weathered wood be damaged from a Michigan winter and Spring, I can light pole sand now, should I apply a thin coat to help protect through Winter, knowing I will sand it off next year, or leave as is?

Kenneth Girouard
6 years ago

Hi. I have an older redwood fence and would llke to stain/seal it and try to keep the flying termites away. What is the best product with a redwood color? TwP 100 or 1500 or some other product? Is the best way to apply it a roller and brush or low pressure sprayer? Thanks.

 
DisappointedinSF
6 years ago

Older redwood deck in San Francisco. Last work done approximately 5 years ago. After prepping (bleach to strip, power washing, sanding), Painter stained one coat with TWP 1500 Series Dark Oak. On edge of deck it is shiny, indicating overapplication of stain, probably because sides of deck were also stained leading to double coat just there. Lots of spots also on horizontal surface. None of the shiny spots are sticky and it has been 4 days since application. What are options? Can you try mineral spirits on shiny spots if dry? or only when wet?

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DisappointedinSF
6 years ago
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What would have been correct prep? Also, why will the shine dull down over time? Is this part of the curing process? It’s been 4.5 days since coat was applied.
Thanks for your response. I will go get mineral spirits.

DisappointedinSF
6 years ago
Reply to  TWP Help

If I use mineral spirits I will need to put another light coat of TWP 1500 over the section I used mineral spirits on. Is that correct?

DisappointedinSF
6 years ago
Reply to  TWP Help

Painter put “stainable” wood putty on deck rail, then put TWP 1500 series on top. Wood putty wasn’t stainable. Sanded off the wood putty and then restained with TWP 1500 but what we have now is pictured. Can we just resand the entire rail (not just the part that had the wood putty) and then reapply TWP 1500 or should we use the wood stripper JUST on the horizontal surface of the rails, sand and then reapply the stain? We want at least the horizontal surface of the rail to have a consistent stain color. Thanks so much!

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Rafael
6 years ago

A couple of days ago we finish staining our deck with your product and a couple of hours after finishing it started raining for 2 days none stop. Upon inspection there were some raindrops on the area we last stained. What would you recommend doing to eliminate the raindrop stains? We applied the stain to pt pine with humidity lower than 15%

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