TWP Stain is Spotty or Shiny

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Last Updated on January 30, 2023 by TWP Help

TWPStainHelp.com Tips: TWP Stain Application is Spotty/Shiny and How to Fix

Staining a deck can be a challenge. There are some common mistakes that can occur that may greatly affect the final results. One such common mistake is over applying the stain.

With TWP Stain it is recommended to apply the stain using a brush, roller, or some type of sprayer. If the wood seems very thirsty, you can apply two “wet on wet” coats. TWP is a penetrating stain so you should never apply more stain than the wood can absorb. Once the stain as had 20-40 minutes or so to penetrate into the wood, you should go back and wipe away or back brush any puddles, drips, or runs.
When excess stain (stain that did not soak in) is left on the surface to dry it becomes shiny. This can give the deck an unsightly spotty or blotchy appearance. If you notice your TWP Stain application is spotty/shiny you should know how to fix it.

Once the surface has dried you can see the extent of the spotty or shiny issue from over-applying. To fix it you can lightly wipe your deck with rags and mineral spirits to remove the excess stain that is on top of the wood.

Note: it is very important to saturate all oily rags with water once done. Lay the rags flat on the ground outside to dry fully.

If you are still having trouble removing the shiny spots, meaning the stain is too thick, you may have to use a stain stripper. You can also try sanding the areas using medium-grit sandpaper. Once the problem areas are cleaned or sanded off, allow the deck to dry before reapplying a light coat of TWP.

Only apply TWP to the areas you cleaned or sanded. Apply as much stain as the wood will absorb but no more. If the stain is not soaking in after 10 minutes wipe the excess away with a clean rag or brush. Try to even out the finish as best as possible without over-applying.

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Anthony
6 years ago

I am building a house and have beams to stain. They are Doug fir and have been weathering for 4 months. I sanded everything with 100 and then cleaned with the restore a deck kit and rinsed with a water hose. I let dry for 2 days before staining and found sap oozing from many parts of the beams. I haven’t applied the stain yet due to the sap. What do I do?

Anthony
6 years ago
Reply to  TWP Help

What do I clean the sap with?

Matthew Morgan
6 years ago

What can I do to avoid a white chalky residue from forming on my PT pine deck? I’ve used TWP 100 in the past but both times this has been the result – like a cloudy, chalky residue that’s noticeable when the deck is try. If I spray it down it looks perfect, but once it dries, it’s like someone has dusted the deck with a thin coat of flour.

Any ideas of what could be the culprit?

Sam
6 years ago
Reply to  Matthew Morgan

It might be oxidized wood particles. You can sand them off before staining. I had them and didn’t and they affected my stain absorption. I have to either strip and redo or wait a year and fix it.

Diana
6 years ago

I have a Tell City end table. I’m trying to stain the wood top and it has turned out spotty and is having trouble drying. What can I do. Don’t know if there is a verneer top on or not?

 
Roger
6 years ago

I did heart redwood deck the wood is new when I appliqued the twp the first coat leave me to much shiny spots I put second coat and I to shiny now my question is the excess of the twp will be resisted to walk over

Mike
6 years ago

I stripped, sanded, and cleaned my treated pine deck to the point that it looked like brand new wood. I may have over applied. I will try the the remedies noted here and give it some time to cure and dry. If it is not resolved and I need to strip and start over. Will RAD be able to remove all stain and color on such a fresh application of stain?

Markus B
6 years ago

I just stained my deck with 1500 series and some areas are still sticky after 32 hours. I guess I over applied stain. I’m not concerned about shiny spots I’m more concerned if the sticky spots will dry up if I wait longer or do I have to wipe them off?

 
Wirelessroute
6 years ago

I recently purchased TWP 1504 Black Walnut stain. I hired a local painting company to apply the stain on my deck after it I cleaned with restore kit and brighten which was done on a Sunday and allowed several days to dry. The painters came back and stained the deck on Thursday and Friday.
The company did a good job with vertical surfaces as they applied 2 coats of the stain wet on wet. The problem I am having is that there are areas on the deck that are glossy. Mainly on the floors which are horizontal surfaces. Other than appearance is there any issue with this? What is the best approach to giving the deck the correct matte look as it appears on 90% of the flat floor? The painters are insistent on us waiting for the shine to go away with heat and sun exposure.
Will it dull over time if we leave it alone as advised by painters?

Tres
6 years ago

Is it best to apply the stain…let sit for 10 minutes and then wipe it away with a cloth regardless of if I think I over applied or not? I want to make sure not to leave any shiny spots. Should I just use a rag to apply the stain or a staining pad.

John Hayes
6 years ago

If I used mineral spirits do I need to sand before appling a lite coat of TWP? The mineral spirits have made grey spots on the deck boards.

 
Kate
7 years ago

We had our new (Feb 2017) pine decks professionally stained using TWP 100 Dark Oak. They brushed the edges and they seem fine. They saturated the center and left it to soak in. Now, one week later, we have a very dark large area (everything but the edges) that have glossy areas and are sticky. Obviously they did not follow the application instructions but what do we insist they do to remedy the situation? They want to wash it and it doesn’t sound like that’s going to help!

Mill
7 years ago

What’s with all the “Guest” replies? I have no idea who those folks are or if they know what they are talking about. Only TWP Help replies are valid to me unless “guest” wants to include credentials!! I am frustrated with TWP that even while careful to not overapply, I end up with shiny spots on the floor. And the reply is to wash it off with mineral spirits and reapply? Somehow I worry it will not blend well with the rest of the stain. About ready to paint the deck…I have been working on this cedar deck for 6 months, and really tired of nothing working the way it is supposed to. ARGGGGGGG!

Kurt seck
7 years ago

I’m not sure which TWO I used (pic included). I applied 2 wet on wet coats. 1/3rd of it is darker and shinier than the rest. I used a flat brush after each app to make sure there was no puddles. Can I apply a 3rd coat on the lighter side to darken it up? Deck is dry

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Michael
7 years ago

Have 3 gal left from a 5 gal can there’s a thick skin on top can I use the remainder? It’s clear stain?

Nicholas
7 years ago

I just over stained my cedar deck 24 hrs ago. It has shiny spots every where. I used twp1500. I tried using mineral spirits but it wasn’t helping. What do I need to do next? Sanding, stripping (if so what kind of stripper)?

Gordon Shaffer
7 years ago

Have a new heart of redwood deck. Contractors sanded quite well and left for 3 hours to return and stain with clear stain. Still very dry and hot sun (high altitude in CO) when they applied stain later in the afternoonn. Most of wood that was exposed to the sun is now spotted as if it had sprinkled all over except for the 120 square feet under cover which is perfect. What happened and how is it fixed? The spots are quite unsightly. Thanks.

 
Ken
7 years ago

Applied TWP 100 to about 600sq ft of deck this weekend. Obviously used too much, whole thing is shiny and tacky. I’ve read about wiping it with mineral spirit to fix. Does waiting a few days matter? This is a covered deck.
FYI. Stripping and starting over is not a good thing to tell me right now.

KimBartlett
7 years ago

I have applied a coat to epe wood and after 12 hours it is sticky feeling. How do I fix this. Does it need more time

deborah wright
7 years ago

I can mineral spirits tone the color down on a oil based stained deck (new)by wiping down

 
CBETTIN
8 years ago

I prepped my cedar deck (both new addition and old stripped section) with the Gemini steps 1 & 2 two days ago. The new cedar has some splotchy areas where it looks like the weathered and/or mill glaze was not completely removed. Should I apply another Gemini cleaning steps 1 & 2 before staining?

rad
9 years ago

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rad
9 years ago

hello – I stained my deck with TWP 1500 color pecan – its been about 72 hours and there are some areas that are still VERY shiny. What would I wash the deck with to help remove the shine? and would I use a power washer for that? Thanks

 
Rodney Carlson
9 years ago

Redwood deck stained with TWP 100 4 days ago Some shiny spots, but not too bad. If I rewash the entire deck lightly with restore a deck cleaner, will I have to restain?

Mike Bear
9 years ago

Redwood deck, power washed clean, dried 2 days then applied 1502 redwood stain – didn’t read the small print and left a heavy coat thinking the wood would soak it up. 5 days layer and the entire front (shaded) deck has a thick layer of shiney varnish covering it. This is not satisfactory – what is the best solution? Is there a quick fix to remove the varnish without removing the stain underneath or does this call for a redo? Its too big of an area to spot treat with mineral spirits – would it be OK to power wash back to bare wood and re-stain? Should i wait for the tacky stuff to dry completely before i pressure wash? My concerns are that the stain underneath the tacky layer seems like it is still damp and/or the new stain won’t come back off leaving an inconsistent finish. Im hoping we can powerwash and start over. the Detailed answer would be greatly appreciated!!!

Mark
10 years ago

I just stained my 8 month old cedar deck with TWP100. I prepped it with the deck cleaner and brightener 2 days ago. I only put down one coat since it’s fairly new wood (although I used about 1.25 gallons on about 300 sq ft). I used a pump sprayer and back rolled (after 45 min)with a roller. The problem is that although it looked good after the coat, the next morning the knots (lots) soaked up the stain and they look dry. Question: can I touch up the knots today with a brush even though the 1st coat stain is no longer wet ?

 
Ann
10 years ago

15-year-old deck with cedar railings and mahogany flooring. Three years ago, I stripped it of Behr, sanded all of it (mandatory) and applied One Time. The second year, I applied One Time to the hardwood flooring. Last year it looked pretty good, so I did nothing. This year I will have it pressure washed and need to remove some algae in spots. The deck faces south and gets sun in the summer, but Oregon gets a lot of rain in the Portland Metro area. Do I need to do anything but power wash the deck before applying the TWP 100? Is the TWP 1500 better? I’m 71 and don’t want to be doing this every year if at all possible. Thanks.

Perry
10 years ago

I had a contractor clean, brighten and stain my deck last week while I was away. 800 sq ft pressure treated pine between 1-3 years old, never sealed in central VA. Gemini products and 1501 Cedartone. Apparently, he put on a second coat the day after the first on all flat surfaces and now I have shiny, tacky peeling spots 4 days after application. What corrective action is best and when should it be done. Thanks for your help.

larry nore
8 years ago

after I used Gemini pre clean treatment and brightner my deck looks almost scally in spots and had a lot of white in it, it is a cedar deck with one year wait. I sanded it last night and want to apply stain today as the weather looks good for a couple of days. Am I ok to do this without applying Gemini cleaner and brightner on it again and getting it wet.

TWPStainHelp
8 years ago
Reply to  larry nore

You should be good to proceed, but feel free to send a picture if you would like.

 
Steve
8 years ago

Using 101 30 year old pressure treated deck. 2 years ago I went with a solid stain, the weather and sun have removed slot of the pigment, so I’m redueing it with TWP.
1) finally found a product I’m happy with (only took 30 years) but had to drive 300 miles to get it cuz not allowed in NY. And now I need more! So first question is how does your NY product compare to 101 and will I like it as much?
2) I don’t think I can wait two years, maybe end of summer next year before re staining (that’s not a reflection on 101, more about me being fussy). What’s the easiest strip method? And will it get darker when I reapply?

Thanks
Steve

TWPStainHelp
8 years ago
Reply to  Steve

1. The TWP 1530 Natural is closest to the TWP 101 Cedartone in color. Performance is about the same between the series.
2. For stripping the TWP 101, the Restore A Deck stripper works best. Neutralize with the Restore a Deck Brightener.

Dan
8 years ago

I’m getting ready to re-stain my deck, after 3 years, with TWP100. While 95% of the horizontal surface has faded from the sun and appears very porous, I have a small area where I had a rug and where my picnic table was that didn’t get any sun and have a very slight ‘shiny’ surface. I’m afraid those areas will not accept stain well. Can I eliminate the small shiny areas by cleaning? Any advice would be appreciated. I really don’t want to completely strip it if possible.

TWPStainHelp
8 years ago
Reply to  Dan

Cleaning will not remove the stain or shiny areas. If you strip you would have to strip all to ensure an even appearance. It would be the best way to go.

Steve Lortz
8 years ago

If I have a shiny area, can I use a pressure washer to remove it?

TWPStainHelp
8 years ago
Reply to  Steve Lortz

You cannot spot remove a shiny area with a pressure washer.

 
TWPStainHelp
8 years ago

You would have to strip all and start over. You cannot spot strip and try to blend. It will look bad.

Brian
8 years ago

I’m getting mixed info on how to correct/address over application of TWP100. Applied 2 coats yesterday on a 1 year old treated pine deck (should have applied 1 if read this post first :-/ ) Today, it is still tacky with some shine. Do I rinse with Dawn dish soap or try removing with rag & mineral spirits. Not clear. I want to correct before sets too long. Thanks!

TWPStainHelp
8 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Use the rags and mineral spirits. Saturate oil rags in water and lay flat to dry outdoors.

Marc
8 years ago

I stained my deck several weeks back using 1504 Black Walnut and now I have these white blotchy areas around the knots of the wood…any clues?

TWPStainHelp
8 years ago
Reply to  Marc

That is sap bleeding from the wood.

Marc
8 years ago
Reply to  TWPStainHelp

is there anything I can do to fix this?

TWPStainHelp
8 years ago
Reply to  Marc

No you cannot stop sap from coming out of the wood grain.

 
TonyT
8 years ago

I followed all if the instructions on this website (thankyou!) in deck prep for TWP100. I got great cleaning/stripping results and then i applied too much stain in quite a few areas. I stained 24 hours ago and just tried mineral spirits and a rag. It didnt phase it. How long should i wait to try and spot wash the shiny areas? Sooner the better? Should i mix cleaner in a bucket and spot brush and rinse? Thank you in advance.

TWPStainHelp
8 years ago
Reply to  TonyT

If the stain has fully dried then spot washing while not remove the shiny spots. If still tacky and oily then lightly washing with dawn dish soap and water may remove some of the excess stain.

TWPStainHelp
8 years ago

Yes you should redo if you did not remove all of the gray or oxidized wood cells.

Jacobs Painting
9 years ago

I stained a house with TWP Redwood. the customer had a previous contractor stain with latex stain without pressure washing first and the job failed within one year and he hired me. I pressure washed (stripped) and sanded much of the house and decks. After staining the customer repeatedly requested more stain here, more stain there, this “definitely needs another coat” he wanted me to keep applying stain to get the most uniform match from the previous improper job etc., so I did, used about 50 gallons of stain altogether on house, multiple decks and fencing. now he is happy it looks very well stained and uniform color, except he is wondering about shinny areas. He is happy with how much work was done but wants to know about if they will go away. I told him that it might take some time for it to dry completely and that it might take weeks, also that if it doesn’t go away that its not necessarily a bad thing. Some people might like a “wet” look, and he said he doesn’t. I then read all the posts about this and am really worried that he will look it up and say that I did it wrong. My position is that I did what he said and that if it takes a couple years to fade, then , oh well, at least his house has a lot of stain on it and is well protected. I really don’t want to have to sand and re stain. What are your thoughts, comments?

TWPStainHelp
9 years ago

It was over applied. TWP is not supposed to be shiny and more is not better. Since it is vertical wood it probably will not peel though.

 
TWPStainHelp
9 years ago

Try to wipe down the shiny spots with some rags and mineral spirits. Saturate any oily rags with water when done to avoid accidental spontaneous combustion.

Taija skelly
9 years ago

See picture.

Taija skelly
9 years ago

I stained my deck yesterday and now it looks spotty. See picture. It’s 1 year old, never been stained and I cleaned and brightened before applying 1 coat. Should I sand the whole deck or clean it? I really don’t want to strip it.

TWPStainHelp
9 years ago
Reply to  Taija skelly

Are you talking about the darker black spot in the middle of the deck? It is hard to tell if that is a shadow or something under the stain. The boards closest look fine.

Taija skelly
9 years ago
Reply to  TWPStainHelp

Yea the splotchy spots in the middle. When I look at the deck from the side view some boards look shiny/spotty.

TWPStainHelp
9 years ago
Reply to  Taija skelly

I would leave it alone as it will settle in and look more even as it fully cures in 1-2 weeks. If you wanted to remove then you would have to strip and start over.

 
TWPStainHelp
9 years ago

Not if you do a very light concentration of the cleaner. Try 2-4 oz per gallon of water and lightly rinse the wood.

TWPStainHelp
9 years ago

This is a result of improper prep and or over application as TWP is not supposed to be shiny. The only way to fix this is to strip it all off and start over. This is not easy when newly applied and when it is over applied. You can use the Restore a Deck Stripper and pressure wash. You may need to strip it a few times to get all of it off the wood. After full removal you will need to neutralize with the Restore A Deck Brightener.

mjm
9 years ago

My house was previously stained with TWP 100. The painter I hired to restore the finish prepped the cedar siding on my house with Gemini Restore as directed (or at least he says so) then let it dry several days. He stained one wall with TWP 1500 Pecan and it looks great. Next he did part of a 2nd wall and the color is much darker than the first (almost a walnut color) even though it is from the same 5 gallon pail. He came back a few days later when I was out of town to stain more of the 2nd wall using a new 5 gallon pail of Pecan. There was a heavy rain about 12 hours later and it has been cool (60s) since then.
Five days later, there are spots where the stain has still not and droplets of stain seem to be seeping through the siding. There are other places where there are blotches and streaks on the wall and still others where the siding is shiny. Finally, the part done with the new 5 gal pail is much lighter than the rest of the wall (I have a hunch that he did not mix the stain in the 2nd pail very well before applying). What if anything can be done to fix the mess he made?

TWPStainHelp
9 years ago
Reply to  mjm

Sounds like it was not mixed well and not applied correctly. You would need to remove the TWP and start over to fix.

 
TWPStainHelp
10 years ago

Wipe down shine and excess stain with rags and mineral spirits or lacquer thinner.

You will be fine for a year or two.

TWPStainHelp
10 years ago

Possibly but it will most likely be okay unless you have heavy traffic.

mjrstain
10 years ago

The painter I hired applied two coats of TWP 100 (wet on wet) to treated pine decking that was not previously stained but allowed to weather for one year. The wood was prepped and allowed to dry throughly. He neglected to wipe off the excess stain on the second coat but fortunately most of it soaked in. There are some shiny areas where the excess stain was not removed but it is now dry. I was wondering if these areas are likely to fail if the stain is left as is? Secondly would it be OK to apply a light coat of stain on the lighter areas to try to make the shiny spots less noticeable? The wood still absorbs the stain in the non shiny areas.

TWPStainHelp
10 years ago
Reply to  mjrstain

No it would not apply more stain to make it all shiny. Try removing some of the shine (excess stain) with mineral spirits and rags. It will dull the finish as well.

mjrstain
10 years ago
Reply to  TWPStainHelp

Thanks for the prompt response. Do I need to worry about failure in the areas where it is applied and shiny?

goneshootin
10 years ago
Reply to  mjrstain

This is a timely post!

Question: Should I use a deck cleaner like Penofin’s Step 2 or mineral spirits or even Oxi Clean to knock down a very shiny TWP 100 surface?

Details:

* I’m kind of ticked with the instructions on the TWP 100 can. NO WHERE does it say the excess stain is to be wiped off. In fact… it says to do a wet-on-wet coat within 10-60 minutes.

* Well, I have a 2 year old kiln dried, tight knot cedar deck 6″ boards, that was heavily pressure washed with the old stain removed. Air dried in the sun for a week.

* My deck is 700 sf. I put the first coat on during 3 rows at a time. Each pass took me about 10-15 minutes. So… I waited a couple of minutes and then put on a very light second coat.

* In total, I used less than 3 gallons for a 700sf deck wet-on-wet.

* Both coats were brushed on with an expensive stain brush and really worked into the wood.

* Weather was clear, 80 degrees. No humidity. And I applied much of the stain not in direct sunlight.

* Now, 24 hours later… it’s VERY SHINY… like a gloss finish.

* NO WAY can it be said the stain was put on too heavy, per the label.

* HOWEVER… a friend of mine told me than with an oil stain, interior or exterior, I should have wiped off any excess stain within minutes of applying. And NEVER applied a second coat.

* This directly contradicts the label.

* So now I have a slight film on the surface that can scratch. It looks like the first coat penetrated. But it just looks ridiculous.

Any advice appreciated. And I’m not in the position to completely remove the finish and then reapply. This is staying on for at least a year.

Thank you.

Thomas, Seattle, WA

 
Clay
10 years ago

Just applied 1 coat of the TWP 100 honeytone to 6 month old pressure treated pine and deck is still slightly tacky after 24 hours. Doesn’t appear shiny or wet. We prepped as instructed, so I assume we over applied the stain, although we were careful to wipe up any excess. Is there anything we should do for this or just let it keep drying?

TWPStainHelp
10 years ago
Reply to  Clay

Just let it dry.

TWPStainHelp
10 years ago

It is normal for the knots to look lighter. Touching them will probably not fix the issue either.

TWPStainHelp
10 years ago

Ann, if you want to use the TWP than you will need to remove the One Time first with a stain stripper and pressure washing. Either Series would work better for you and one is not better.

 
TWPStainHelp
10 years ago

Perry, pump sprayer. Let sit for 10 minutes and pressure wash off. Repeat for stubborn spots. Brighten all when done.

Perry
10 years ago
Reply to  TWPStainHelp

Thanks much!

TWPStainHelp
10 years ago

Perry, you can either strip it all off and start over or just let it dry out and deal with it later on down the road. You will need to strip to fix though.

Perry
10 years ago
Reply to  TWPStainHelp

Thanks, much. Contractor has agreed to make it right so I just ordered the stripper, brightener and another 5 gal. Do you recommend the stripper applied by pump spray or power washer in this instance? How long does it stay on before rinsing? Thanks again.

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