Stain All Sides with TWP?

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Last Updated on January 30, 2023 by TWP Help

Stain All Sides of the deck board with TWP? 

When staining a deck using TWP, is it necessary to stain all sides of each board? Consider the reason for staining wood – to shield it from weather damage, which causes rot and decay. This can lead to an unsightly appearance and structural failure.

Wood that is exposed to the elements will experience constant changes. Wood swells as it absorbs water and moisture, then shrinks when it dries out. These constant changes begin to break down the cellular structure of the wood causing it to crack, split, and warp. Ultraviolet rays fade and discolor the wood leading to a neglected appearance.
To prolong the life of any wood structure, and help maintain its original appearance, it needs to be coated with a weather-resistant stain like TWP. However, because at least one side of the boards will not be as exposed to weather as the other sides, it is not necessary to stain all sides with TWP. The bottom sides of deck boards, for example, are not exposed to much water or UV rays.

The only reason to stain all sides with TWP would be for aesthetic purposes. On a second-story deck, having all sides stained with TWP would be more appealing. This is a purely personal preference. To stain all sides with TWP for appearance is going to be more expensive and labor-intensive. It would take double the amount of stain and time to stain the underside of a deck.

To ensure the wood is shielded from weather and will stand the test of time, staining with TWP is a good investment. To stain all sides with TWP is really only for appearance where applicable but certainly is not necessary. It is really up to the deck owner whether or not to stain all sides. Not doing so will not lend a hand to weather damage or shorten the life of the structure in any way.

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Mike
1 month ago

Hi. I have a large deck in western NC. I had it done with twp 100 in September 2019 and a second coat in September 2020. Came out fantastic. The horizontal surfaces areas are pretty bad, north pacing part is mildewed and whole deck by needing to be restained . Question: I way over ordered in 2019 , 5 five gallon containers, I still have one unopened 5 gallon container. Would it still be good? Second question. Guy that did the work wants to use bleach and pressure cleaner to prep. I know there are other products but he seems insistent. Wood is pressure treated deck boards. Any problem with bleach?

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Jen S
1 month ago

We stained our deck in Colorado In oct 2023 after stripping/cleaning it with your kit- by the way, turned out beautiful, what steps do we take to do the maintenance coat in the next couple of months- can it just be power washed to clean- is it necessary to strip it again? and after this next application-do we do as needed? Thank you so much

Michael Tammaro
28 days ago
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Thanks. Since the last coat of two 100 was October 2020 should I do two new coats wet on wet or otherwise, or just one? The vertical surfaces actually still look good, horizontal, particularly on shaded portions that got mold are pretty bad.

Michael Tammaro
28 days ago
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Thanks. How much coverage per 5 gallons would you say? I need to order.

Kathy
1 month ago

Had my deck sanded on Friday then stained with TWP 101 on Saturday. It’s now Monday and some areas still Look wet – shiny and darker than others. How long does it take to totally dry?

 
Andy Bloodsworth
11 months ago

TWP 1500

Andy Bloodsworth
11 months ago

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Stained deck no rain in forecast , so yeah had an isolated shower/storm 15/16 hours after
finishing deck. any recommendations. Thanks

Joe Impson
1 year ago

We are a log home builder and we maintain the houses we build. We use TWP100 exclusively on our cabins. I see lots of posts on here pertaining to decks and how to take care of them, but my question is for these log cabins that have existing TWP 100 on them. Can we just wash them with the Gemini Retore a Deck or is there a different process or product for log cabins? Most of the cabins we are dealing with are oak logs w/ cedar/cypress trim.

 
Myriam Nuyens
1 year ago

I have a porch deck that was painted and I have stripped it with paint and varnish stripper twice which got ‘most of the paint off’ but there are some patches left. Can I sand it first (with no more than 80 grid) to get the rest of the bits of paint off and then use the Gemini cleaner and brightener before staining? It will also smooth out the boards a bit. If so, can I sand now and wait till March (due to winter in TN) and then clean, brighten and stain? Would I need to sand after cleaning and brightening to remove any white fuzzies if they come up?

Mimi
1 year ago
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Would you recommend sanding before restore kit to get the remaining paint off or keep using stripper? Any reason for not sanding? Thank you!

Myriam Nuyens
1 year ago
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OK and I can sand now and then use the Gemini Kit in the spring before staining, correct?

tom
1 year ago

Is TWP quoted ” coverage” based on ” wet-on-wet” application i.e. 2 coats or a single coat application

RJ Rohlfing
1 year ago

I’m getting ready to rework my deck and need some advice. The majority of my deck is on a very open southern exposure and takes a heavy beating from the sun (we’re in central IL.) The existing deck is pressure treated 5/4 pine, and I just can’t get it to hold a finish. Started with a semi transparent then went to a solid. The part protected from the sun/rain does better of course but the majority is nearly all gone in less than 2 years. Need to replace much of the wood so now looking to peel it all off. I was originally thinking about composite, but not finding that it is sufficiently more robust or color fast to justify the added cost. Considering IPE and a clear sealer annually, or on the much cheaper end, Menards’ cedartone 5/4 deck boards and again a clear sealer. Keep seeing the TWP name pop up in my research. I know you don’t offer a solid stain, but do you offer an untinted transparent option and how well would you expect it to hold up on Ipe or Cedartone in a high sun application?

 
Paul
1 year ago

If I buy kiln dried redwood it is true that it dries not need to age before staining?

But I still need to remove the mill glaze? How do I remove this?

Paul
1 year ago
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Thank you. By the way my redwood will not be treated with any insect deterrent, just dried.

But this is still kind of confusing. The manufacturer seems to have told me that kiln dried needs to weather 4 to 6 months.

And the biggest question I still have is that after using the Gemini cleaner the wood will be wet, and all that drying time was for nothing, seemingly.

How long after using the wood cleaner does it need to dry?

Paul
1 year ago
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I am not following directions from the wood manufacturer. It’s not manufactured wood.
When I said ‘manufacturer’ I meant the stain manufacturer of TWP as you suggest. That’s who I spoke with.

Please define what I need to do for kiln dried smooth redwood to remove the mill glaze.
I was told to use the Gemini wood cleaner but that will cause the wood to get wet.
This wood is very expensive and I need to d have the stain penetrate.

Are you saying I can stain it 48 hours after cleaning it? The wood will still be wet I believe.

Paul
1 year ago
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Ok. I did read that. Got it. It just seems counterintuitive to have a requirement for the wood to dry for months but the ok to stain it when it’s still wet. But I know this is complicated and I appreciate the help!

Jim
2 years ago

I need to reseal cedar braces on our house. The house was built about 2 years ago, but I do not know what type of sealer they used at the time other than it was clear. Can the 1500 go over old water based sealer or just over oil based sealer? Since I do not know what type was previously used I do not want to make a mistake. Thanks

susan
2 years ago

can you apply TWP over sikkens stain? We dont like it and want a solid stain TWP.
Susan

 
Dale Walling
2 years ago

Is there a dealer in the Dallas/Ft Worth, Texas area that sells TWP products?

Bob
2 years ago

We had our fence stained with TWP101. The guy got stain on our concrete & we’d like to know how to get it off. Thanks

Kevin Marschel
2 years ago

Hello, Can you paint over TWP Cedartown with a poly to make it shiny?
I have a sanded wood table and the TWP finish is nice but dull.

 
Jan
2 years ago

I have read that TWP cannot be top coated, however, can I paint railings which had previously been stained with TWP (4 or more years ago) using an exterior oil based primer first?

David Buhrkuhl
2 years ago

I have a 4 1/2 year old boatdock that I am staining for the 3rd time with TWP 120. The horizontal surfaces in direct sunlight for most of the day look really bad; while those in the shade look okay. The vertical post are starting to lighten un.

How would you go about re-staining this project?

I just purchased the RAD Deck Stripper Brightner kit but i want it all to be one level of Pecan when i am finished.

Barney Parker
2 years ago

Just read about newer semisolid oil stain.I have 10 year old redwood deck in good shape with Superdeck transparent stain that is no longer available in Colorado.what needs to be done to deck prior to using your semisolid redwood stain and witch kit should be used.Deck needs restaining this summer or fall

 
Doug
3 years ago

I used your TWP 1500 last summer to stain my new cedar deck. We applied one coat only as the “wet on wet” approach did not work. The product was pooling on the boards and not absorbing. We spent considerable time going back over the wood to remove the excess stain so as to not be “sticky”. After one winter and entering into the Spring the boards look dull with intermittent gray sections to the wood and the stain appears to not be uniform. Basically, the boards look like they need to be completely restained? Feeling frustrated given the cost of the 5 gallon product I bought and that the boards look so rough. Curious as to what we do next? Do the boards need to be sanded, chemically cleaned, etc. first or do we simply apply another coat?

Ted Hodge
3 years ago

Can TWP 1500 be applied to porous outdoor tile, I spilled a bit on my patio and it looked great before I wiped it off.

Theresa
3 years ago

I used TWP 100 and stained in July. A few of the boards look like they could use a bit more protection. Can i reapply before winter? Do I have to do any prep? I’m in Minnesota

Theresa
3 years ago
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Even if a couple of the boards do not appear to be repelling water as well as the others?

 
Melissa Antonio
3 years ago

What kind of sealer do you use after you stain your log home for a couple years. I found the color i want to stay with. I just need to deal it now.

Catherine McCabe
3 years ago

We used TWP last year on our cedar pergola and now want to restain the floor of the deck with TWP. The pine is 5 years old and is peeling in some areas. We can strip and brighten using your products and sand if necessary. How would we know if we need to purchase any of the additives to help with the stripping? I would hate to get the stripper and then wish we would have bought the additives also. In your experience does the TWP last longer on cedar or pine? My husband wants to rip out this deck and replace with cedar so the TWP will last longer and we don’t have to keep redoing the staining every couple of years. Is it necessary to strip the old TWP or can you clean the wood and apply a coat of stain when necessary? We will keep the pine deck if we don’t have to strip it every few years.
Thank you for your help.

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Mike
3 years ago

Shelf life of TWP 100 Stain?

 
Roger
3 years ago

My deck is IPE Wood several years old. It has been professionally treated with TWP products last fall, one coat on a professionally sanded and prepped deck. The deck has total exposure to sun and rain. We live just north of San Francisco in Marin county. The deck color has faded. What is the best way to restore color to the deck?

Meg
3 years ago

Hello,
Last year I had a NH company stain my deck with Russet 206 in Massachusetts. I am fine with that but I want to put on a second coat this year and I only can find the 1500 series in Mass. Can you apply the 1500 series on a 100/200 series?

Robert
3 years ago

I have a pressure treated deck that I have stained every three years with 1502 for the past 12 years. It always does a great job. I have had to flip one board (curled on the ends). When I stained the deck two days ago this board did not darken up to match the others. I didn’t think to give it a wet-on-wet coat. Is there anything I can do now to darken it up a little?

 
Ravinatha R Buchupalli
3 years ago

Hello, Do you have a video or instructions that explain the wet on wet application? When the first coat is wet, how do you apply the second coat? Stepping on the first coat will result in foot marks. Correct?

Alexis
3 years ago

I’m building a cypress deck now but I will not have access to below the deck to finish that side. Also how long would I wait?

TONY B.
4 years ago

I will be staining my cedar white shakes on my house. I need the 200 series samples, that your company recommends, Where can I get them ?
If it is stain by the 200 series does the white cedar skakes turn gray after a few years ?

Tony B.

 
Bobby D
4 years ago

Is it worth staining the backside of a 10 month old cedar fence that is facing a steep, tree covered hill? I’m in western Washington, so there is plenty of moisture, but I would expect minimal UV exposure based on the position.

Larry D Hunt
4 years ago

My “covered” porch is treated pine, 10 years old, been stained once (6 years ago) and it extends around the entire circumference of my house. While it is covered, the outward edges received more rain and sun and thus take more abuse from the weather. I also have dogs that like to run on the deck. So I’m looking for the best protection I can get from rain, sun, and dogs. I know, that’s a lot to ask for. But the deck has weathered very well considering it’s mostly covered. I don’t really need a restore type product as I don’t have the damage. I like the idea of a solid color stain and need it in a “grayish” color. Our climate is 6B, on the Missouri / Arkansas border. Temps can get to 100 in the summer and single-digit in winter. Which stain would you suggest and can I get it in a gray color? Thx in advance.

Larry D Hunt
4 years ago
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I’m not looking for a solid color stain. I just said I liked the idea. Sorry for the confusion. What I’m looking to answer is which of your products you’d recommend based upon my environment. Then, can it be “tinted/colored” in a gray or can you get it in a gray?

Larry D Hunt
4 years ago
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Thanks for the response. One final question: If I wanted to tint it a darker gray can this be done and if so, how to go about it? Suggestions?

Jim Kasper
4 years ago

In late 2013 our deck was re-stained with what I was told was TWP + Radcon. Apparently a blend of what now would be TWP 1500 and TWP 200 (for more pigment). Local companies mention a mix/blend of 1500 and 200 from 80%/20% to 20%/80%. The concerns being that the more TWP 200, the longer drying time and the higher chance of pigment rubbing off.
Comments??
P.S. I searched the TWPStain.com web site for Radcon and did not get any hits.
P.P.S. Location is Northern California, SF Bay Area about 3 miles from the coast. Fair amount of daily sun on the deck; hot occasionally; winter rains

Jim Kasper
4 years ago
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Is “Radcon” a ‘thing” – that is, is it a specific product or a specification of the mixture?
Alternatively, is it generic and is term to describe a mixture, of any proportions, of TWP 200 & TWP 1500?

 
Paul Master
4 years ago

Planning on using 1502 (Redwood) in California
Have sanded 40 year old redwood planks, will clean & prep using your product. I’m concerned that the old wood will be really absorbent. Do you suggest additional stain. Using your calculator which says 4 gallons, will 5 gallon suffice? Thank you

Paul Master
4 years ago
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360 sq ft

Tad
4 years ago

Is TWP good to use on unfinished outdoor furniture such as a cypress swing? Location SW Missouri.

Joe R Horvath
4 years ago

When applying TWP 1500 stain to vertical boards and spindles should I work from top-to-bottom or bottom-to-top?

Joe R Horvath
4 years ago
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what happens if I drip on the unstained lower boards does it show through?

 
Ginny Freudenberger
4 years ago

I have a 40 year old log home that was previously stained with CWF cedar color. It has darkened over the years and the wood looks dry. I am thinking to use your stain stripper and brightner combo then stain with TWP. I would like to lighten the wood as much as possible. Do you have any before and after pictures of log homes having used this product? How difficult is the stripper to use and how is it applied? Will it harm my patio which is attached to house.?

Ginny Freudenberger
4 years ago
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Will the stripper damage my patio block? Are there photos of before & after the stripper is used on a house?
I would like to see the results.

Ben
4 years ago

We are building a cabin and have used TWP Cedartone on new white pine siding. We are seeing mildew and mold on the wood and thought TWP prevented such. We have take a piece of scrape stained siding to the supplier who agrees that it is mold and mildew. We don’t understand why this is happening and what can be done about it. Can you advise?

Bill Brusky
4 years ago

On waiting 48 hours: I’m currently in a very limited window of opportunity to get stain on a prepared deck. If I wait 48 hours, we’re expected to have rain the evening of the day I want to stain the deck. I have a moisture meter for wood and I’m not afraid to use it. The deck has been drying well since washing. Do you know the moisture percentage that I should be looking for before applying stain? I’m guessing somewhere in the 5 to 12% range?

 
Paul
5 years ago

If I have TWP 100 series already applied on my deck but needs to be redone since it is starting to fade – what do I need to do prior to application? Just clean/brighten? or strip also?

John Haddock
5 years ago

can you ship 100 series to wisconsin ?

Mark Price
5 years ago

Can you mix cape cod gray with clear to produce a lighter shade ?

 
Harjinder Bajwa
5 years ago

I asked the question few days back, don’t see if the reply was posted. Installed Redwood deck, pergola and fence in my backyard (Bay Area, CA) a year+ back. This winter has been very wet and the wood needs to be stained. Will the CA Redwood or Redwood in the 1500 series work better and last longer? Thx. HB

Elliott
5 years ago

Hey there. Dumb question here…I decided to order 3 samples to try out on my deck prior to buying 5 gallon drums. My deck is over a year old and I pressure washed it 5 days ago.
Question: Do I just brush on the 3 different colors of stain to see which one looks best? Captian Obvious here…but I plan on using a sprayer to handle the entire job so I wasnt sure if I should spray or brush it on.

D. Forstner
5 years ago

Can Clear stain be used on a deck?

Mark Price
5 years ago
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Will it gray natural if the clear is applied annually?

 
Frank Brandt
6 years ago

We finished 1 coat last year of Rustic Oak on a white pine log house. Can we make it darker and more brown by using a different color for our second coat? It looks lighter and more red than what we expected. Didn’t look like the computer color chip. For prep, prior to using TWP, we sanded the entire house to get the very old other (don’t know brand) stain off the logs.
Thanks, Frank in NC

Dany
6 years ago

Should stain be applied on the sides between the deck boards?

Debra
6 years ago

We are installing a new tongue and groove doug fir porch floor on our covered porch. We live in upstate NY. We did not pretreat the boards prior to install. Is it necessary to let the wood “cure” before we apply TWP stain? What TWP products do you recommend we use once we are able to treat the floor?

 
Al Badalamento
8 years ago

I plan on using your TWP Cedartone 101 on my new 2×4 cedar deck boards. I would like to first use a preservative on all six (6) sides before I install the 2X4. I plan on using the following procedure before using your stain:

1. Remove the “Mill Graze” with your product Gemini or Wolman Deck and Fence Brightener.
2. Power wash the brightener off.
3. Use Woodlife Classic Clear Wood Preservative on all sides and three coats on the cut ends.
4. Install the boards to the joists.
5. Six (6) months later use a brightener then put use one coat of your TWP Cedartone 101.

Will this be okay?

Judy M
9 years ago

We have used the Gemini prep on our cedar deck and getting ready to stain. We have deck skirting out of cedar that slightly touches the ground to keep rabbits out. Some of the skirting is on rock but some is going into mulch. My question is when staining towards the bottom – should I let the stain run at the very end to prevent my brush from picking up any mulch or debris? I have raked away debri but the ends are dirty.
Thanks for the help!

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