Need Some Help With TWP Stains?

by TWP Help

Last Updated on January 30, 2023 by TWP Help

We are here to help you with your TWP exterior deck or wood restoration project for 2024!

TWP is an advanced wood preservative/protectant registered by the EPA. Performance and longevity can vary though depending on the wood type, how the wood is prepped, the age of wood, and how the TWP is applied. We want everyone who has decided to use TWP 100, 1500, or 200 Series to have the best possible results.

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When asking questions please give us some information about your wood restoration project:

  • What structure is your wood? Examples would be: Deck, Wood Siding, Fence, etc
  • What species is the wood? Examples: Treated Pine, Cedar, Redwood, Ipe, etc
  • Is the wood new or older than 1 year?
  • Has the wood been stained previously with a different brand? Please specify brand name and type of stain used: Examples: Solid stain, Semi-Transparent Stain, etc.
  • Any additional info that would be useful

Once you supply us with the information, we will able to give you advice as to how to prep your wood and any needed instructions for the TWP application.

Please ask your questions in the comment area.

Thanks

TWP Stain Help Staff

 

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TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

Steve, TWP are not covering stains and will not belend other brands. For best results you need to remove all of the SW Deckscapes so the TWP can properly work. Stripping and possibly sanding will be the best way to remove. Try to achieve 95% removal or more.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

Jim, is this rough wood or smooth? You cannot stain brand new smooth right away. Are you doing both sides and what is the total s. footage?

Jim
11 years ago
Reply to  TWPStainHelp

It’s 1500 sq ft but I’m doing both sides. When I touch the wood, it has sawdust left on it that I can brush away- so, rough, then? How long would you wait Thank you for the reply.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Jim

JIm, so the total is 3000 or 1500 sq. feet? If rough wood then I would lightly clean the wood to remove the dust then let it dry for a couple of days before applying the stain. Rough wood can be stained right away. Smooth wood needs to weather for 4+ months.

Jim
11 years ago
Reply to  TWPStainHelp

It’s okay to power wash the rough wood or should I do it by hand? Total is 3000 sq ft- 15 gallons for one coat? Thank you for all these replies.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Jim

Jim, lightly pressure washing should be fine. 15-20 gallons for the 1 coat.

Jim
11 years ago
Reply to  TWPStainHelp

Thank you!

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Jim

Welcome!

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

San Antonio, I like the 1520 Pecan. Please read this article: http://www.twpstainhelp.com/prepping-new-wood-for-twp-stains/

 
Kathy
11 years ago

Hello, daughter has a brand new yellow-wood deck in KC. Contractor recommend TWP, but not sure which one to use. Need oil with stain on first pass. Next year he recommends a clear oil preservative. Thanks, K

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Kathy

Kathy, please read this article: http://www.twpstainhelp.com/prepping-new-wood-for-twp-stains/

Use the 100 Series.

jim
11 years ago

can I spray TWP stain with a 3000 psi sprayer?

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  jim

Jim, an airless sprayer?

Jancie
11 years ago

Very large10 year old full sun cedar deck in IL used Cabots oil-based Chestnut Brown semi solid stain 3 years ago. Power washed the remaining stain off the floor and replaced three boards with new. Can’t remove all from the vertical surfaces. Plan to use TWP 1500 Rustic Oak. Do I have to brighten first? Would I stain all except the new boards and then do just those boards in a few months?

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Jancie

Janice, did you sue a stripper when removing the Cabot? Best to sue a stripper then brighten when done before applying the TWP 1500. I would just do it all then touch up the newer boards in a year.

 
wncjohn
11 years ago

After using deck cleaner and then putting down Thompson’s Water sealer on part of my deck, I decided to switch to TWP product. The part I treated is beading up water. How aggressive do I need to be to remove the sealer before I apply the TWP?
Thanks, John

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  wncjohn

The Thompsons needs to be removed 100% so the TWP can properly penetrate into the wood.

wncjohn
11 years ago
Reply to  TWPStainHelp

So I guess more than a cleaner. Should a stripper do the trick?

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  wncjohn

Yes I would strip then brighten for the prep.

Ebl
11 years ago

Unfortunately I just heard about twp too late. How and when can I treat with twp now that I’ve screwed up with the linseed oil?

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Ebl

EBl, not sure as I do not know how the linseed moisture you did will work out. Maybe next you can strip off the Linseed oil then apply the TWP.

Ebl
11 years ago

I just power washed my 6 yr old cedar deck and coated with a 50/50 mix of boiled linseed oil and thinner today Can I top coat with twp?

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Ebl

EBL, no I would not do that.

 
TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

Cari Ann, you should be able to restore the natural wood color with the prepping products. I would suggest the 1500 since the deck is older and neglected.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

Dave, look at the TWP 115 Honeytone after waiting to let the wood dry. Prep first with a cleaner and wood brightener.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

South Tahoe Skier, I would use the 100 Series.

South Tahoe skier
11 years ago
Reply to  TWPStainHelp

Thanks for the advice TWP stain help!

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

Welcome!

 
TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

Dave, I would suggest a high quality solid deck stain for the verticals from your local high end paint store.

fmaggi
11 years ago

If applying TWP with a pump sprayer, does it need to be brushed in, or is simple spray contact sufficient? Same question for stripper/cleaner, too (w/ power washer). Thanks.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  fmaggi

fmaggi, you should back brush is spraying to make sure the TWP is applied evenly. You can spray the cleaners but you do not need to back brush those.

Marc
11 years ago

Deck: 550 sq ft
25 yr/old wolmanized wood. Good condition.
Please see pic.

-3wks ago stained w/ TWP103
-uneven throughout
-double stained in 2 areas
-totally unprofessional job (besides the double stains, can see roller spots, cut-ins, etc.)
-painter blamed the stain (“it went on like water. I used everything you gave me (3gal)”
-told him I picked the stain because of its high ranking (Deckstainhelp.com).

-I really want to avoid a full strip–>wash–>condition–>stain–>seal

-the “work” is only 3w old . . . CAN I POSSIBLY JUST COVER THIS JOB WITH A TWP PRODUCT?

-PICTURE ATTACHED

Thanks,

Marc

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Marc

Marc, he did a very poor job of applying. You could possibly just apply a light coat to even it out. Make sure that it is very light and there is no rain in the forecast for awhile as it may take a day or longer to dry. It will be a little over applied at this point but it should be okay for 2 years.

Marc
11 years ago
Reply to  TWPStainHelp

As long as we’re fixing it, would a recover using1503 possibly work as well or better than a light evening-out coat of 103 (the stain used 3w ago)?

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Marc

marc, use the same as you used the first time.

 
TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

Phil, yes it will remove the gray.

A
11 years ago

I have an old deck that is a combination of cedar and pressure treated wood. It was in clean condition prior to applying stain. We live in nebraska. The deck was completely dry when we started application of the stain. We only stained the seats of the deck yesterday in sections. Now we are getting rain (6 hours later than some sections were stained). We used twp 103 to blend the varied woods. What do I do now?

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  A

A, I would just wait until the rain stops then complete the deck.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

Tim, less product means quicker fading from UV.

 
Phil
11 years ago

I live in Munising, Michigan. My deck needs some attention. The deck floor has turned grey and I kind of like that weathered look. I want to apply some new stain to the railings (there is some old stain on there now but I have no idea what is is). What would you recommend I do to get started? I assume I need to clean the wood. Can I leave the floor alone and just apply a clear sealer to preserve the wood? Should I use 100 or 1500 for the job? Thanks!

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Phil

Phil, prep all the wood with the Gemini Restore Kit. Use one of the tinted colors in the 100 Series for the rails and the TWP clear for the floor.

Phil
11 years ago
Reply to  TWPStainHelp

Will the Gemini Restore Kit remove the weathered grey on the deck?

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

Michael, clean and brighten for the prep with the Gemini Restore Kit then apply the TWP 1500.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

Yes you can do that.

 
TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

j, TWP is a water shedding stain. It does not or should not stop water 100%. You need the wood to be able to breathe. if you have a black spot under the stain then it is something else. Maybe rust?

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

JB, the TWP does not turn black. It is something else but without seeing a picture it is hard to say. Can you try uploading one?

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

Maggie, It is probably okay to stain now.

 
Doug in Iowa
11 years ago

Last fall, I applied one coat of TWP 1500 over new cedar decking before laying the floor of our covered porch. I would like to put another coat on this summer. What do you suggest for preparing the cedar for another coat? Thank you!

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Doug in Iowa

Doug, a light cleaning with a deck cleaner to remove the dirt and grime should be sufficient.

Tracy
11 years ago

I have used solid color stain on an older deck in the past and hated the painted appearance. will the 1500 series semitransparent stain give this type of appearance as well? What % of solids does the 100 vs the 1500 series have?

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Tracy

Tracy, both the 100 and 1500 are semi-transparent stains that do not hide or mask the grain but rather highlight the wood grain.

Michael
11 years ago

I just had my >12 year old Redwood Deck powerwashed by a contractor and treated with two-coats of TWP 1502 Redwood Semi-transparent stain. The deck looked clean and well prepared prior to application but the result is disappointing and the deck finish looks very blotchy. There are three problems:

1. Large color variation within boards

2. Large color variation board-to-board

3. Shiney surfaces presumably because the contractor did not apply the 2nd coat quickly enough and wipe off excess TWP.

My question: Is this fixable and if so what should I do?

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Michael

Michael, You would need to strip it off and start over. There is not a way to fix what is there without removing. Other option is to wait a week or two and see if it “evens” out. It may.

 
Doug Fannon
11 years ago

We had our deck refinished last year with TWP stain (#1530 – Natural). We decided to have a new coat applied this year as it seemed to have faded quite a bit over the harsh winter. The guys have prepped it with the cleaner and brightener. it is all set to receive the stain. My question is this… The guys say you recommend only one coat – not two. But the brightener had made it so light it appears almost as though the wood were never stained. Is one coat really all that is needed? I’m just having trouble imagining that one coat will suffice. Thanks!

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Doug Fannon

doug, if you do two coats make sure they are two light coats and that they are applied wet on wet.

Jack Obilly
11 years ago

Rain fell on my deck about 6-7 hrs after I completed 1 coat of stain.It continued to rain for two days. It’s dry now, can I apply another coat of TWP even though it’s NOT wet on wet? If not when would you suggest?

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Jack Obilly

Jack, hard to say for sure but if you do make sure it is a very light coat.

Han Lu
11 years ago

I have a less than a year old Cedar covered (80% with no direct Sun and 20% with direct Sun contact) deck. It has never been strain. I am considering using TWP 100 series. What color should I pick to get the cedar natural look or close to it. I do not want the clear where overtime the gray may show.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Han Lu
 
Central Pennsylvania Alphas
11 years ago

i have an older wood deck (PTP) that was previously treated with Thompson’s WaterSeal Advanced Tinted Wood Protector. I had good result with that but can no longer get it in PA, so I ordered your TWP 15000 in Redwood. The deck is stripped and brightened. It was done over a week ago. My question is about waiting after rain to apply the stain. Do I have to wait 48 hours after the last rain and then hope for 48 hours of no rain afterward? The weatherman is never accurate and I do not want to have to strip it off again…that is harder work than staining!

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

Wait 24-48 hours after a rain. TWP typically can take a rain 12-24 after done with the staining.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

Ryan, prep first with the Gemini Restore kit and apply 1 coat of the TWP 1500 Series.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

Savor, let weather for a month or two. Prep with the Gemini Restore Kit before applying the stain. Just 1 coat this time.

 
Alex
11 years ago

I have a treated pine dock. The floor is Trex. The dock has been in for 5-6 years and has never been treated as far as I can tell. Would I use TWP100 or TWP 1500. I have cleaned and power washed already. Can I go ahead and stain? I am in South Carolina.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Alex, I would go ahead and stain with the 1500 for this.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

Vasan, Please read this about colors: http://www.twpstainhelp.com/tips/need-help/twp-color-tips/

Ben
11 years ago

Hello – I have an older deck made from redwood that has a badly peeling solid stain and some wear on the decking itself. My plan is to remove the 2×6 deck boards, run them through a planer, then reinstall for a like-new appearance. I’d like to use the TWP100, but wonder if I can apply it immediately after re-installation, or should I let the old resurfaced wood weather for a couple of months? The deck is approximately 15 years old.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Ben, I would go ahead and apply after using the Gemini Restore Kit for the prep.

 
Mark
11 years ago

I am building an elevated deck soon. Wood will be pressure treated…species is TBD. This will be new wood. I can’t understand the difference between TWP 100 and TWP 1500. I see the colors are slightly different. But what is the main difference? How do I decide which is best for me? Climate is Southeast Michigan. Thanks.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Mark, 100 series for MI. Please read this article:

http://www.twpstainhelp.com/prepping-new-wood-for-twp-stains/

woodyi
11 years ago

I installed a Garapa deck and stained with TWP 100 series. The stain cured properly and the first time it was rained on, the water beaded and puddled on the boards. Since the deck is mostly in shade it is taking a long time to evaporate. Is this normal? Thank you

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  woodyi

woodyi, yes that is normal.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

dls, no it will not create any damage.

 
AJ
11 years ago

We purchased a home in November 2011 and have a 12×24, covered deck, with rails, that needs to be treated or retreated. I do not know what was previously used, but the glossy finish is wearing off. My preference is a clear finish without any color. I live outside of Philly, so our winters are not extreme. Recommendations appreciated.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  AJ

AJ, you would need to sand off the shiny finish as TWP is a penetrating stain. TWP comes in a Clear but you must have a tint in the finish if you want UV protection from graying.

Allan
11 years ago

I have a 7 year old PTW KDAT DECK, I have used stain remover pressured washed and then an oxalic acid based brightener, I lightly sanded with 60 grit paper. I am in Louisville KY, it gets full sun for part afternoon, but not on all areas as the deck is only 10 x10. Question is which TWP I should use, 100 or 1500 nd more importantly why???.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Allan

Allan, use the 100 series for this.

Ryan
11 years ago

The “how to” video shows a dark walnut color, #104, but I don’t see that as an option in the 100 series. Is it available?

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Ryan

Ryan, it is only available in the 100 Series.

Ryan
11 years ago
Reply to  TWPStainHelp

Thank you? The 1500 I assume you meant right?

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Ryan

Ryan, yes 🙂

 
Mark
11 years ago

I have an enclosed porch which large has screens which are open to the elements year round. The porch has “hardwood” tongue and groove wood flooring that is 7 years old and was sealed about 4 years ago. Today I applied TWP 1500 but after 8 hours it has not dried. I guess it did not properly penetrate and is essentially sitting on the surface. Question is how long will it take to cure or do I need to remove it somehow?

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Mark, I would try wiping it down with some rads and lacquer thinner to remove the excess. It will dry eventually but it could take some time. A week or longer. This is because you applied TWP to a hardwood and most likely over applied. Make sure to wet the rages down with water to avoid accidental spontaneous combustion.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

Chris, you should use the Restore A Deck Stain Stripper then the brightener to remove the One Time as much as possible so the TWP can work properly.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

Yes that will happen when freshly stained but it will not so that after a month or so.
Scott Paul
OPW/TheSealerStore
248.299.2512

 
TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

Maybe try the 1503 Dark Oak to give the deck a rich brown look and blend the wood.
Scott Paul
OPW/TheSealerStore
248.299.2512

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago

I’d the old stain is gone then clean prep with the Gemini Kit then stain with the 1500.
Scott Paul
OPW/TheSealerStore
248.299.2512

MJ
11 years ago

I have a 3 year old treated lumber pool deck that has never been stained. We live in northwestern PA. I have purchased the restore-a-deck and 1500 stain. I am having difficulty finding a dry weather pocket to clean and stain the deck. How long can it be between using the restore-a-deck and the stain? What if it rains? How long does it have to be dry after staining? Since it has never been stained, 1 coat or wet on wet? Thanks.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  MJ

MJ, you can wait a week or so between the prepping and staining. If it rains make sure that it dries for 24-48 hours before applying. 2 coats wet on wet.

 
chuckles
11 years ago

I presently have a TWP treated S4S cedar deck color cedartone I sanded the boards almost to natural wood Do I need to powerwash the decking prior to applying new TWP stain?

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  chuckles

You should use the Gemini Restore Kit to prep the wood after the sanding.
Scott Paul
OPW/TheSealerStore
248.299.2512

chuckles
11 years ago
Reply to  TWPStainHelp

Should I power wash?

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TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  chuckles

You can to speed up the prepping process.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  chuckles

Pressure wash and use the Gemini Restore Kit with the cleaning.

Jo
11 years ago

We are looking to treat our large pressure treated deck. It’s a year old and has never been treated. It gets full beating hot sun in summer and snow in winter. We are in Southern Ontario (same climate as Detroit). The pressure treated wood is slightly golden colour and we would be happy if it stayed that colour or a little deeper. Every “sealant” I’ve ever used has peeled. We were looking at the 100 series but see it’s not available in Canada.

TWPStainHelp
11 years ago
Reply to  Jo

Jo, TWP 100 and 1500 are not compliant for Canada VOC laws.

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